?Fallow Deer

[riggy]

Out walking with my wife and our dog this evening and at this deer ran across the field. i had my video cam and took some quite poor fotage. Below are some grab shots. I think it is a fallow deer due to the white rump area. It is the first time I have seen deer in this location. I would be most gratefull if someone can confirm the ID.




Cheers

Paul

[mbaldw]

Looks like a Roe to me, Paul.

Cheers,
Marc.

[salukiwhippet]

Yep, roe for sure - caudal patch on fallow has a black border and a long visible tail with a black stripe down it.

James

[riggy]

Originally Posted by mbaldw

Looks like a Roe to me, Paul.

Cheers,
Marc.

Originally Posted by salukiwhippet

Yep, roe for sure - caudal patch on fallow has a black border and a long visible tail with a black stripe down it.

James

Cheers

Had a look at Roe deer pics on here and they are a match. Still first deer I have seen away from Chatsworth type places

Cheers again

Paul

[Pyrrhocorax]

Definitely looks like a Roe Deer to me too. Colouring is right, cant see any spots or paler belly, & Roes have a white rump too. The Forestry Commission page about Kiveton Community Woodland links to info on Roe deer only, which suggests they are the commonest deer here.
Not a pleasant business looking up info on Google, sadly far too much evidence of people who get their jollies from shooting wildlife.

[captivebolt]

Originally Posted by Pyrrhocorax

Definitely looks like a Roe Deer to me too. Colouring is right, cant see any spots or paler belly, & Roes have a white rump too. The Forestry Commission page about Kiveton Community Woodland links to info on Roe deer only, which suggests they are the commonest deer here.
Not a pleasant business looking up info on Google, sadly far too much evidence of people who get their jollies from shooting wildlife.

What a silly comment. The total cervid population of the UK is on the close order of 1.5x10^6. Some 3.5x10^4 are culled each year, but the total population continues to increase. The invasive species in particular are destructive of habitat, of trees, of crops. I started a thread on here recently on the theme that Muntjac are a serious threat to nightingales due to their destruction of undergrowth. There are a number of conservation groups whuch support culling of deer as a necessityto maintain indigenous species.

How often must I say that we do not live in a "natural" landscape? The British landscape is A-G-R-I-C-U-L-T-U-R-A-L. We can try to maintain diversity, which I, as a hunter, strive to do. We could, I suppose, stop controlling the animal population and let 'em get on with it, in which case a lot of wildlife would get poisoned by agribusiness managers.

I've asked this question before. How many song birds sing in Kansas?

Captivebolt

[Pyrrhocorax]

"Captivebolt" cant imagine why.
But no not IMHO a silly comment, I'm perfectly at ease with the idea that control is sometimes neccessary.
On the whole I dislike killing things, and have little time for those who enjoy doing so.
If people hunt for food, to protect other wildlife or agriculture or similar, then what has to be done has to be done.

I was referring to the fact that researching deer online leads to lots of pictures of skilled brave and clever people posing with animals they have shot for fun or to prove their manhood. Not my idea of respect for wildlife.

[captivebolt]

OK, Py. . . I grant your last point. Some of my fellow shooters are, to say the least, not very nice people. Naytheless, like it or not, we have little choice other than to manage our wildlife, and I for one would rather see deer shot and put into the food chain than some of the alternative methods. At least shooters pride themselves on a clean one shot kill.

I've said before, and will continue to say, that conservationists, animal lovers and honest hunters are not that far apart.

ATB, Captivebolt

[Pyrrhocorax]

I accept that where we have Shooting Reserves next to Nature Reserves (eg Titchwell, Oare marshes) that is far far better than having a Marina or Theme Park.
I was talking to the Warden at a reserve in Kent the other day about what he had just been shooting and why, and it was very interesting & happily agreed that what he was doing was neccessary.
He didn't seem to enjoy that part of the job much (though of course he may have just been giving me tha answers he thought I wanted to hear). For my part I'd ten times rather be doing what he did than the indoor job I do.
I hope that we can all agree on the need to maintain as much biodiversity as possible, as well as maintaining at least some land that has a semblance of being a natural habitat (I am fully aware that there is little that is truly so left on the Planet).
And while I was writing this, you posted the above, so it looks like we are broadly in agreement.

[captivebolt]

Why don't we talk rather than fight?

Captivebolt