The Fox and the Cat

GriGGerS · #1 (**permalink**) 12-04-2010, 12:07 PM

After reading the initial post on Cats and Foxes.. The post was closed for obvious reasons... But had it been open I would have pulled it back on topic with this... Footage This is not the only occurrence I have seen. But as you can see the cat can look after itself…

Nige

Malx · #2 (**permalink**) 12-04-2010, 10:14 PM

Hi Griggers,

I suspect you could add much to our discussion of urchins here on the Mammals Forum.

Just saw your YouTube footage (March 29th) of the first 2 visitors in your hh house. Makes me realise why hedgehogs are so endangered, and so unlikely to survive in this country much longer:
1) They can't seem to get a decent night's sleep! HH No.2 took blooming hours to settle, and disturbed hh1 constantly in the process...
2) They're so blinking unsociable, they just don't get on and co-operate with each other. You'd think they'd be glad for the common protection, shared alertness and bodily warmth; and for the fact that at least one other hedgie agreed that it was a good spot to bed down; but NO! hh1 was spiked-up in defence, and hh2 was uneasy for what seemed like an age.

Forget loss of habitat, road kills and predation, maybe it's bedroom etiquette which is going to do for them!

OASN, does your hh house camera have a motion sensor built in? If so, how widely available are these, built in to the device? [I haven't found one yet]
And, does the motion sensor then feed the stream automatically to a 'large-storage' recording device, and what is that?

Cheers for any user-friendly technical help.

GriGGerS · #3 (**permalink**) 14-04-2010, 01:46 PM

Hi Malx
Thanks for your comments.. With regards to the Hog House the camera is a standard IR camera fitted to the inside of the roof. The video is then fed back via a multi use cable (video, power and audio) to one of two DVR (video capture cards) in a pc.
The motion detection is achieved with the use of software that monitors the feed. The same software is also use to send the images to my website which can be viewed via a console on the website.
The images are stored on the PC and either deleted or archived to an external or network drive at time intervals defined by the user.
The initial motion capture is just lots of stills. If you want to create a video you tell the software which times Start and finish you wish to use and it will create a video from the stills.
So you can have live stream to a webpage and motion capture for storing any activity.
I haven’t come across any camera that has built in motion detection that will save to an external storage.

Hope this helps

Nige

Malx · #4 (**permalink**) 14-04-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GriGGerS

Hi Malx
Thanks for your comments.. With regards to the Hog House the camera is a standard IR camera fitted to the inside of the roof. The video is then fed back via a multi use cable (video, power and audio) to one of two DVR (video capture cards) in a pc.
The motion detection is achieved with the use of software that monitors the feed. The same software is also use to send the images to my website which can be viewed via a console on the website.
The images are stored on the PC and either deleted or archived to an external or network drive at time intervals defined by the user.
The initial motion capture is just lots of stills. If you want to create a video you tell the software which times Start and finish you wish to use and it will create a video from the stills.
So you can have live stream to a webpage and motion capture for storing any activity.
I haven’t come across any camera that has built in motion detection that will save to an external storage.

Hope this helps

Nige

Fantastic, thanks, Nigel.

Clever piece of software that, by the sounds of it!

Frustrating to me that I can't get a bit of gear which will just record video to a storage device only when there's movement.... Ought to be simple with a PIR-type sensor.
If I had half a brain cell, I suspect I could buy a DIY electronic kit and rig up a simple 'binary' trigger in the hh house [or "canteen", as I call it] which would start recording as the hh arrives, and switch itself off as it went out. Tricky though, as I don't want a physical arm-type device in their way, and a pressure pad for a 500g juvenile won't be easy to find on the market! Plus that won't be triggered by my field mouse!
A PIR device has to be the way, linked like yours to a PC, and ideally with a video camera.

The technology's all there, but just not (yet) in one bundle, and half my household budget goes on feeding the little blighters, let alone watching them!

Do get in touch if you come across any new bits of gear!