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03-08-2009, 06:46 PM
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| | | Unidentified Skull
Found a small skull today while out fungi hunting.
I've got no idea what it might be, and thought some of you knowledgeable Wabbers might venture an opinion. (Unfortunately the lower jaw wasn't to be found).
Overall length about 65mm.     
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03-08-2009, 06:51 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Skull
It looks like a rodent skull judging by the front teeth Mike.
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03-08-2009, 08:15 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Skull
It's from a lagomorph ... rabbit, or possibly hare. |
03-08-2009, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by valleyforge  It's from a lagomorph ... rabbit, or possibly hare. | Don't they have two pairs of incisors?
I can't see any empty sockets for them and I've never seen a rabbit or hare skull with teeth as strongly orange as these are. I first thought grey squirrel but the molar to incisor gap looks a bit long.
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03-08-2009, 08:33 PM
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Personally I'd go for a rat, I've got one here somewhere, I'll try to get a picture of it for comparison.
Edit : Having had a better look I take that back and would agree with probable grey squirrel.
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03-08-2009, 08:42 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Skull
Its a grey squirrel. Rat skulls tend to be very flat at the back. Also the Postorbital processes at the top of the eye socket rules anything other than a squirrel out. |
03-08-2009, 08:52 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Skull
I have what i think is a rabbit skull lying around. Will put a picture up for comparison (when i find it!).
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03-08-2009, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RobSutton Don't they have two pairs of incisors? | Actually, you are absolutely right ... I just didn't look closely enough. 
The overall shape and size of the skull is right for a lagomorph, but they do have 'extra' inscisors ... and of course, the side of the rostrum would be diagnostically an open lattice.
So my 'oh yes I know what that is' look was rubbish really ... sorry about that, it's been a long day. 
It's way too long in the muzzle for a red squirrel, and 6.5cm seems kind of long for a grey squirrel skull too, although I guess that would be the most likely candidate, oxidized teeth and all.
A rat skull has an obvious temporal ridge that I'm not seeing in any of these photos. |
03-08-2009, 08:58 PM
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Found it! Always thought this was a rabbit.  
Length is 60mm.
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03-08-2009, 09:00 PM
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Thanks for the replies so far everyone.
The incisors don't look very rabbity  , and I think it would have been too big for a rat. (Unless we have some supersize-rats around here ).
Might be about the right size for a grey squirrel. (There are large numbers of them in this wood).
Regards,
Mike. EDIT - Tim, The eye sockets on your Rabbit skull look considerably larger than on the one I found.
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