Go Back   Wild About Britain > British Wildlife > Mammal Forums

» June 2012

S M T W T F S
2728293031 1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

» Stats

Members: 50,157
Threads: 82,349
Posts: 853,287
Top Poster: glsammy (15,069)
Welcome to our newest member, Ye Olde Justin
Reply

 

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 18-07-2009, 03:34 PM
Marcia's Avatar
Wild Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 241
Unhappy Found Wobbling Baby Hedgehog

Hi everyone,

We've found a baby hedgehog (5" long) in my garden (3pm) and he was wobbling very badly. I offered him some mealworms but he wouldn't eat it so we brought him in. After a search here we found out he could be suffering from hypothermia so we quickly put him in a high box, on top of a hot water bottle wrapped up in towels. He stopped wobbling, curled up and seems to be sound asleep now. Every now and then he moves to get more comfy.

We phoned the local British Hedgehog Rescue and been told to give him catfood and honeyed water. And that we should keep him in until he reaches 1Lb in weight.

My only concern is that from the previous threads I've read here hedgehogs with the "wobbling syndrome" rarely make it as they might have underlying illness.

It's the first hedgehog I've ever seen in the wild and I really hope he can make it... he's in our lounge now and we just can't take our eyes off him...

Should I wake him up and try to feed him some boiled chicken? Or should I just let him sleep?

I'd appreciate any advice, input or similar stories and experiences with wobbling hoglets.

Thank you very much for reading.

Marcia.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 18-07-2009, 03:46 PM
paulthomas's Avatar
Officer of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 527
Re: Found Wobbling Baby Hedgehog

Leave him to his own sleep pattern. He'll wake up to eat as when he needs to.
__________________
Best Regards

Paul
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 18-07-2009, 04:12 PM
Marcia's Avatar
Wild Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 241
Re: Found Wobbling Baby Hedgehog

Thank you for your reply Paul. We let him sleep.

He just woke up now and made a poop, very normal poop, not runny, no blood traces. He sniffed the food but hasn't eat anything (chicken, raisins, mealworms) and hasn't drank any water too. Now he's scratching the sides of the box trying to climb it. He's definitely better and more lively than one hour ago.

Last edited by Marcia; 18-07-2009 at 04:15 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 18-07-2009, 04:24 PM
Pippa's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Durham
Posts: 1,481
Re: Found Wobbling Baby Hedgehog

Hi Marcia,

The rescue service do say cat-food but not the fish type and good to do as they say.Water is obviously good too.You have been given great advice and fingers crossed your hog will do ok


Well done you for giving it a chance though.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 18-07-2009, 05:13 PM
Marcia's Avatar
Wild Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 241
Re: Found Wobbling Baby Hedgehog

Thanks Pippa, I haven't bought any cat food yet, but I boiled and diced some chicken. He's hasn't touch it yet.

We've just upgraded him to a much bigger box and he's moving around much more, trying to climb it. I gave him some honeyed water in a pipete and he opened his mouth and tried to chew the pipete. So I wonder if he's still not into solids? We've just weighted him: 126g, very tiny, isn't he?

My husband thinks that maybe he'll find his family again if we release him, but I'm not sure...

We have an impending travel in two weeks time and unless I find a babysitter I can't keep him as a pet... The rescue center I called is full and won't take anymore hoglets. I don't know what to do...
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 18-07-2009, 07:18 PM
Pippa's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Durham
Posts: 1,481
Re: Found Wobbling Baby Hedgehog

If you must, you could release him at dusk and put food and water out for him every night.Fingers crossed, he has 2 weeks and may make it.Good luck Marcia.He really has to put on a lot of weight before winter.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 18-07-2009, 07:57 PM
Hedgehoggy's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 1,351
Re: Found Wobbling Baby Hedgehog

Hi Marcia, sounds like the little mite will need nursing for a while. Wobbling is usually indicative of hypothermia/dehydration (often due to underlying infection, but as his poop is normal that's a good sign that he may not have an underlying infection). He won't attempt to take any fluids/food until he has warmed up, as you've discovered. 126g is tiny, possibly around 3 weeks old? Does he have teeth yet? The fact he's attempting to bite the pipette suggests he's not properly weaned, so he'll need his food mixed to a gloop and fed via syringe, with a little of the gloop left in a jam jar lid to encourage him to lap.

Please check your garden for his siblings (who will also need help) as it could be something has happened to mum, which is why he was out in daytime searching for her.

I have a contact in Sheffield whose details I'll pm to you, if this wildlife centre is too far from you to get to, they'll hopefully be able to put you in touch with somebody more local.

In the meantime, see here for more detailed help:
http://www.wildlifeonline.me.uk/hedgehog_care.html



P.S. Apologies for the very rushed reply, I'm in the middle of packing but will check forum again later tonight.

Last edited by Hedgehoggy; 18-07-2009 at 07:59 PM. Reason: Forgot to add link!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 18-07-2009, 08:10 PM
Hedgehoggy's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 1,351
Re: Found Wobbling Baby Hedgehog

Have just PMd you with those contact details.

Forgot to mention, hyperactivity (continued restlessness) can be a symptom of dehydration in hoglets, so continue with the honeyed water as often as he'll take it.

Last edited by Hedgehoggy; 18-07-2009 at 08:14 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 18-07-2009, 08:42 PM
Marcia's Avatar
Wild Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 241
Re: Found Wobbling Baby Hedgehog

After reading some more info on British Hedgehog Preservation we rushed to the shop and bought a couple of cat food chicken flavour with jelly I liquidised it, offered it on a teaspoon and he wolfed it down! Pheew, that's a relief.

Hedgehoggy, thank you so much for your invaluable reply! I'd appreciate if you could send me the contact in Sheffield because I believe he need an expert carer. He might be around 3 or 4 weeks. He's got teeth, very tiny but lots of them. He ate well from a teaspoon but made a big mess, he had around 10g of cat food, we cleaned his nose, change the beddings and he's having a nap now looking quite content.

We went to check the garden but couldn't find any siblings. We'll keep an eye though. My garden has no proper fences between my two neighbours and there're lots of fields around so it's hard to know where he's come from. Thank you once again for you help, Hedgehoggy.

I've still got a couple of questions:

How often should we feed him?
Should we mix water so he doesn't get dehydrated?
Or should we give him water with a pipette?

I'm trying not to handle him unless necessary but he doesn't seem interested on the dishes with put for him.

Thank everyone for helping us.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 18-07-2009, 10:14 PM
Hedgehoggy's Avatar
Commander of the Wild Empire
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 1,351
Re: Found Wobbling Baby Hedgehog

Marcia, I've just sent you another PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcia View Post
He's got teeth, very tiny but lots of them. He ate well from a teaspoon but made a big mess, he had around 10g of cat food, we cleaned his nose, change the beddings and he's having a nap now looking quite content.
Excellent! Just how a well fed, watered and contented hoglet should behave If his teeth are all through he's probably around 4 weeks old. At this age, he would just be accompanying mum on night time foraging trips.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcia View Post
I've still got a couple of questions:

How often should we feed him?
Should we mix water so he doesn't get dehydrated?
Or should we give him water with a pipette?

I'm trying not to handle him unless necessary but he doesn't seem interested on the dishes with put for him.
At that age, and because he's able to lap from a spoon, I personally would wake him up to offer hourly feeds up until about midnight, or later if poss, then start again at around 6am in the morning (sorry! ) Feed him as much as he will take in one session; he'll only eat what he needs, then after his last feed of the night leave enough of the liquidised food in a couple of very shallow heavy based dishes (preferably not much higher/bigger than jam jar lid size but heavy enough so that he can't tip them over when he climbs/wades in them!) in the hope he'll lap it up by himself if hungry during the night. Although the wet cat food does provide moisture, I would add just a little water to the mix to ensure he stays hydrated. You could also try leaving a very shallow heavy based dish of water, just in case he manages to drink by himself.

With regards to keeping him warm, it's important that the hot water bottle is not left to become cold, otherwise it will have the opposite effect and freeze the little mite! So, when you get up during the night to replace the hot water bottle, you might like to offer him another hand feed too!!!!

Don't worry about overhandling at this age, once they're independent and are feeding by themselves and have established a nocturnal routine, they won't let you handle them anyway!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply  

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Baby Hedgehog ksg1970 Mammal Forums 16 02-07-2009 07:55 PM
baby hedgehog found need info geordie graham Mammal Forums 10 05-11-2008 11:44 AM
found baby sparrow awilken British Birds 10 11-07-2008 06:11 PM
Baby Hedgehog found today!!!!! 2dogs2000 Mammal Forums 1 17-12-2007 08:02 AM
please help!! i've found a baby sparrow cagza British Birds 5 05-07-2007 02:03 PM

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!

» Online Users: 188

» New Wildlife Posts

Go to first new post buzzards under attack
Last post by SheffieldLass
Today 01:05 AM
62 Replies, 1,779 Views
Go to first new post Extremely large Hornet...
Last post by outdoorguy
Today 12:08 AM
10 Replies, 226 Views
Go to first new post Metallic Leaf Beetle
Last post by tjhavenith
Yesterday 11:55 PM
4 Replies, 129 Views
Go to first new post Parasola leiocephala...
Last post by FungiJohn
Yesterday 11:34 PM
2 Replies, 71 Views
Go to first new post Fermyn Woods
Last post by aeshna
Yesterday 11:27 PM
2 Replies, 142 Views
Go to first new post is this a Small Blue?
Last post by aeshna
Yesterday 11:14 PM
1 Replies, 41 Views
Go to first new post You see loads of them...
Last post by ~T~
Yesterday 11:08 PM
0 Replies, 24 Views
Go to first new post Spider of the Day
Last post by Malthusius
Yesterday 11:08 PM
188 Replies, 4,574 Views

» New Environment Posts

Go to first new post "Earth In Crisis As...
Last post by fairplay
Yesterday 03:28 PM
11 Replies, 565 Views
Go to first new post Little plastic bags
Last post by Trekkie
27-05-2012 03:16 PM
9 Replies, 741 Views
Why Wind Won't Work!
Last post by Lancashire Lad
25-05-2012 11:17 AM
5 Replies, 386 Views
Severn Barrage (and...
Last post by zail
20-05-2012 05:32 PM
7 Replies, 636 Views

» New Activity Posts

Go to first new post Amateur Wildlife Shots
Last post by bob.phillips
Yesterday 10:33 PM
4 Replies, 174 Views
Go to first new post Coast to Coast Walk -...
Last post by nursiebernard
Yesterday 10:15 PM
121 Replies, 3,819 Views
Go to first new post Moths on Greater...
Last post by Closescapes
Yesterday 07:59 PM
0 Replies, 48 Views
Go to first new post Canon 7D versus 1D ...
Last post by Ollie
Yesterday 06:47 PM
56 Replies, 2,352 Views

» New Community Posts

Go to first new post Ivinghoe Beacon and...
Last post by Pete Collins
Yesterday 07:16 AM
5 Replies, 172 Views
Go to first new post Spammers!
Last post by AdrianH
30-05-2012 08:00 AM
5 Replies, 123 Views
Go to first new post Planet Earth Live ...
Last post by davedotcom
30-05-2012 07:40 AM
27 Replies, 1,263 Views
One click save a hedgehog
Last post by Hedgehoggy
29-05-2012 09:08 PM
2 Replies, 112 Views

All times are GMT. The time now is 02:22 AM.


Copyright Wild About Britain 2009

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118