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Old 27-01-2008, 03:44 PM
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White fallow deer

Whilst out today I came across this white Fallow Deer. Although it is within a park I was wondering just how common white deer are. Has anyone else seen white deer

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Old 27-01-2008, 05:41 PM
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Re: White fallow deer

white and pale phase fallow are not uncommon actually recently there has been quite a run of white deer threads! If you scroll back through the mammal forums you should see them there's more info in them
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Old 27-01-2008, 06:56 PM
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Re: White fallow deer

yup white fallows seem more common than in other deers - they are probaly effectively fallows with white spots so big that they cover the whole body. I saw two in Richmond park along with a melanistic (black) one in the large herd there
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Old 27-01-2008, 07:21 PM
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Re: White fallow deer

There are quite a few wild White fallow in the South of England, a friend has a White Red Stag in his deer park.

I saw 6 Wild white Sika hinds today..........but not the White Stag which I was looking for!

Some Wild White Fallow on my website below.

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Old 27-01-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: White fallow deer

Thanks for the replies. I shall scroll back and find other references.

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Old 27-01-2008, 08:17 PM
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Re: White fallow deer

Had a wander round my favourite woods today (Brede High Woods),saw about 30 Fallow in total, (these are completely wild animals). In summer the stags can be really different in colour,never seen a white one but charcoal,pale and the occasional black ones are not that rare,the hinds don't seem to very as much.The best stag that I saw for 3 years running (during the Rut) was a deep chestnut on the legs and flanks and jet black along the top of the back,neck and head.
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Old 27-01-2008, 10:49 PM
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Re: White fallow deer

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Had a wander round my favourite woods today (Brede High Woods),saw about 30 Fallow in total, (these are completely wild animals). In summer the stags can be really different in colour,never seen a white one but charcoal,pale and the occasional black ones are not that rare,the hinds don't seem to very as much.The best stag that I saw for 3 years running (during the Rut) was a deep chestnut on the legs and flanks and jet black along the top of the back,neck and head.
I don't want to appear pedantic but since this is a wildlife site shouldn't we perhaps aspire to using the correct terminology for the males, females and young of the various deer species? The terms Stag[1] and Hind are specific and exclusive to Red Deer (whose young are called Calves). For all the other deer species males are called Bucks[2], females are Does and the young are Fawns.

[1] Technically a Stag is a male Red Deer in his 5th year. The sequence is Calf, Brocket, Spayad, Staggard, Stag, Hart and Great Hart.
[2] In the case of Fallow Deer the sequence is Fawn, Pricket, Sorel, Sore and Buck.
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Re: White fallow deer

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I don't want to appear pedantic but since this is a wildlife site shouldn't we perhaps aspire to using the correct terminology for the males, females and young of the various deer species? The terms Stag[1] and Hind are specific and exclusive to Red Deer (whose young are called Calves). For all the other deer species males are called Bucks[2], females are Does and the young are Fawns.

[1] Technically a Stag is a male Red Deer in his 5th year. The sequence is Calf, Brocket, Spayad, Staggard, Stag, Hart and Great Hart.
[2] In the case of Fallow Deer the sequence is Fawn, Pricket, Sorel, Sore and Buck.
Hi Paul.

I don't think most people on this site know the proper terminology for the species of deer. I know what your saying, but I don't think it matters too much, if they're really interested in deer they will find out themselves if they ask.

P.s. you missed out Bare buck after Sore & Great Buck after Buck for the Fallow, Roe have 'kids' & Sika have the same names for the sexes & young as Reds.

So, for those that are interested:

Red - Stag, Hind, Calf

Sika - Stag, Hind, Calf

Fallow - Buck, Doe, Fawn

Roe - Buck, Doe, Kid

Muntjac - Buck, Doe, Fawn

Chinese Water Deer - Buck, Doe, Fawn
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Old 28-01-2008, 08:37 PM
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Re: White fallow deer

So anyway, I was watching these men deer,lady deer and baby deers.....

Could be local nameing round here,as fallow are called stags and hinds locally,also roebucks are called harts 'specially if they are white.Same as squirrels are called scuds,Hedgehogs are hedgepigs ect.

Spagots = where a deer has left antler smaller than the right,

Spogets = where a deer has right antler smaller than the left,

Mullion= where the dorsla anteriour antler has a distinct recurve to it,

Slutin= where a female deer will go further than just a kiss on the first date,

OK, I'll stop now I'm getting silly !!
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