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11-03-2011, 03:33 PM
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| | | Re: Rat poison, will it kill hedgehogs Hedgehog rescuers will tell you that they get lots of cases of poisoned hedgehogs.
Don't forget that bait tubes will also kill wood mice and field voles and presumably weasels and stoats.
There is a worry that near waterways water voles may get poisoned, or be poisoned due to wrong identification.
Baby hedgehogs can fit into quite small holes, so even if an adult can't get to the bait, babies may.
If a rat dies and is not picked up, then animals that may eat it will either get sick or die.
I'm please to say that I now get a weasel visiting from time to time, so I hope this gets rid of mine which occasionally turn up.
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12-03-2011, 10:49 AM
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| | | Re: Rat poison, will it kill hedgehogs Quote:
Originally Posted by eeyore hmm - no action on the thread for two years than someone brings it back to life with a post encouraging us to look at a website
do rats eat spam ? and is it toxic ? (or just a damn nuisance)  | I recommended the website so members could ascertain facts for themselves. I wouldn't want to mislead anyone. Quicker than repeating instruction etc in this thread!
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12-03-2011, 11:04 AM
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| | | Re: Rat poison, will it kill hedgehogs Thanks for that Werdnal. Yes, you do have to remove bird feeding poles etc.
The birds have to fend for themselves for a while. I hate doing that but I live on a park home site and if I don't use the Eradibait (my choice) then site manager can come on my pitch and use dreadful poisons (his choice) which could affect my cat and dog and everyone elses cats! I also live-catch and also have a lethal new type trap that uses green bands for instant kill with no suffering. I live on border of forest with gate into same so also get adders which I am anxious not to poison! Mind you, they don't mind nipping my dog. Anti-histamine resolve that so far!
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12-03-2011, 01:58 PM
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| | | Re: Rat poison, will it kill hedgehogs Quote:
Originally Posted by STYRBJORN On a point of information, I sustained a torn cruciate ligament in a m/cycle accident. The operation to restore it entailed opening my leg from the back, round to the front and putting in a steel pin to hold the ligament in place. I was on warfarin for 3 months, to reduce the risk of blood clots forming in the capillaries. I'm still alive . . .Ric  | I was on warfarin for 6 months (following a pulmory embolism), and Im still alive too.... BUT when taking it, you have to be careful about injuring yourself as the drug affects the ability to form blood clots. A fall, resulting in a major bruise, can cause internal bleeding and death. A useful, but nasty little drug.
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12-03-2011, 02:47 PM
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| | | Re: Rat poison, will it kill hedgehogs The dosage of warfarin they use in rat poison is very high the way it works is to induce haemorrhage from every orifice. | 
13-03-2011, 09:35 AM
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| | | Re: Rat poison, will it kill hedgehogs Quote:
Originally Posted by Farplace I was on warfarin for 6 months (following a pulmory embolism), and Im still alive too.... BUT when taking it, you have to be careful about injuring yourself as the drug affects the ability to form blood clots. A fall, resulting in a major bruise, can cause internal bleeding and death. A useful, but nasty little drug. | Great excuse for not going to the dentist though!
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22-03-2011, 12:16 AM
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| | | Re: Rat poison, will it kill hedgehogs Quote:
Originally Posted by RobSutton I'd heard that most animals would vomit up Warfarin at levels way below that needed to kill them but rats and mice don't do this so warfarin is a pretty specific rodenticide - not sure whether this is true, has anybody else heard this?
Not sure, either, whether I would use it because of the possible effect on mice and voles. | I heard that slugs eat the poision and when Hedgehogs eat the slugs in quantity kills the hedghog it my not be enough to kill the hedgehog but it wont be coming back to eat the slugs in your garden and your slugs may eat your crops, if its not natural don't do it when you mess with food chain you get problems, better off designing garden un rat friendly as possible, keep it clean, rats like piles of wood, under sheds that are low to the ground, food now if your like me and you grow food you want to protect your crops so I've looked into and used traps however in months of using a trap caught few mice and one rat, just keep it clean and if the odd rat comes and eats the odd strawberry so be it its only nature and your fruit and veg are only nature.
PS. there's an allotment near me been closed down it was rat infested, so even if one gardener did all the above advice would stil have rat problem...even if set traps the rats would be stil happy in other plots they'd keep breeding in the other plots and passing through yours, so rather than trapping, campaigning to get everyone in allotments to be tidy and clean should help keep rat population down a lot. I saw the signs up Save our allotment, maybe clean up your allotment sign and action might of saved it from been closed down.
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