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Old 24-07-2008, 10:33 AM
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Wasp, hoverfly, Butterfly & moth id's?

I've marked this down as a Gatekeeper - Pyronia tithonus does anyone agree?


Apart from "a moth" I've no idea what this is...


Some kind of hover fly? (pretty small... at a guess a body of less than 10mm)


I "presume" this is a Common Wasp, although for a moment I thought it might have been a German Wasp, they're very poor photos! There's also no view of it's face


And finally two different flies

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Re: Wasp, hoverfly, Butterfly & moth id's?

the hoverfly is a female Sphaerophoria
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Re: Wasp, hoverfly, Butterfly & moth id's?

The wasp looks like it is probably V. germanica. The shoulder styripe is broadened in the middle which is a helpful sign
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Old 24-07-2008, 05:58 PM
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Re: Wasp, hoverfly, Butterfly & moth id's?

Yes to the Gatekeeper, the moth i think is a form of the riband wave, but may be a plain wave. see what one of the experts say.

Cheers J.P.
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Re: Wasp, hoverfly, Butterfly & moth id's?

Good genus, C&B. I first thought Yellow Shell.

Could be a Small Fan-footed Wave, Idaea biselata.
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Old 24-07-2008, 07:46 PM
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Re: Wasp, hoverfly, Butterfly & moth id's?

You may well be right from the markings on the leading edge, i was going
by position of dot on middle bar and way body protrudes from wings, it's a
difficult one, would have helped if it landed on a ruler.

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Re: Wasp, hoverfly, Butterfly & moth id's?

The moth was on a slat on a bench (standard type of park bench'y bench) this might give a slightly better idea of size comparing it to the size of the gap(and then again maybe not!) My very hesitant guess would be a wingspan as seen in the photo's of 15-20mm



I've just put this photo on because I like it, not because I think it would be much use for ID!
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Old 25-07-2008, 07:18 AM
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Re: Wasp, hoverfly, Butterfly & moth id's?

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the hoverfly is a female Sphaerophoria
Cheers another one to label!

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The wasp looks like it is probably V. germanica. The shoulder styripe is broadened in the middle which is a helpful sign
Cheers I'll label it as that then, I won't be uploading it to the Gallery anyway as the picture quality is no where near good enough!

At least I know now to get a front on view if possible as I was reading that that is the easiest way to tell.

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Yes to the Gatekeeper
Yay! my first correct ID!
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