bumblebee for id

[leifus]

i cant find this in my insect book (collins complete guide - obviously not complete ) so can anyone help?

[eucera]

This could be B. pascuorum (and probably is) but from the angle you've snapped it, it could also be B. humilis or B. muscorum. Really we need to see if there are any black hairs on the abdomen and on the thorax to be sure.

You don't say where you are or what habitat either, which could help rule things out!

[Jason Green]

Eucera - in the absence of another angle on this I'd also go for B.pascuorum

[eucera]

I am not prepared to "go" for B. pascuorum because there isn't another angle! I merely state that it is PROBABLY B. pascuorum but I can not say more than that

[Jason Green]

Oh, sorry... I was just agreeing as you said it might be...

[leifus]

thanks. I googled it and found that it is B. muscorum

[eucera]

Originally Posted by leifus

thanks. I googled it and found that it is B. muscorum

You really shouldn't say that on the evidence you have presented! You need to see if there are any black hairs on the abdomen... or on the thorax. A single black hair in either of these places would rule out B. muscorum. The hair on the top of the thorax looks a bit dull to me for B. muscorum too.... B. muscorum is a rare species over much of UK (particularly England) and is BAP listed. Because of its conservation status, any records of B. muscorum need to be backed up with incontrovertible evidence that they are what it is claimed they are

Googling anything can only provide suggestions in cases such as this - there are lots of misidentified things on the web.

[leifus]

sorry!!!