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Old 18-07-2008, 04:13 PM
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Help with ID's Please

Hi folks,
Iv'e been trying to Id these pics and I'm not getting anywhere with them , can anyone help out please,
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Duncan

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4 look at the spikes arrond the head area
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Old 18-07-2008, 04:18 PM
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Re: Help with ID's Please

I'd say that the moth is a Silver-ground Carpet, number 4 is the pupa of a ladybird larvae although I'm not sure which species it would be.
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Old 18-07-2008, 04:20 PM
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4. Is a ladybird pupa - possibly Harlequin.
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Old 18-07-2008, 05:01 PM
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Yes, I had a sneaky suspicion about no 4 being a Harlequin pupa,
and the moth as a carpet but I didn't know which one , I checked it out on UK moths and I'm in agreement
Thank you both for your help
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#2 looks like either Rhagio notatus or lineola, but the legs look too pale for the former.
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4. = certainly a Harlequin pupa. The 'spikes around the head' are actually around the tail, and are the brushes/spikes on the old larval skin that has been stripped off and is now sitting at the top of the tail where the larva/pupa is attached to the substrate. It's mostly thanks to these that the pupa species can be determined.
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Re: Help with ID's Please

3 looks like 1 of the flea beetles that feed on Malvaceae + with the reddish legs, I think it's Podagrica fuscicornis.
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As far as the beetle is concerned, Gastrophysa polygoni springs to mind, but I'm by no means certain.
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Hi

Is this a ladybird pupa as well?



Harlequin?

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I think it's Podagrica fuscicornis.
That seems a better suggestion
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Is this a ladybird pupa as well?

Harlequin?
Yep.
There's only one other with more ore less comparable 'spikes' and that's the native sister species Harmonia quadripunctata (Cream-streaked ladybird), but you'll only find the pupae/larvae on pine trees and the like (occasionally on a shrub under it) and it's pupa is much more beige/brown, not as much orangy-red (compare here).
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