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05-07-2008, 05:58 PM
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| | | Is this Bombus monticola? Once again I'm confused! Originally thought this was Bombus pratorum but it doesn't quite look right and the more I look at reference images the more I become uncertain. In my garden, on the coast, S. Devon.
Thought Bombus monticola was an upland species.
Any clarification gratefully received.  | 
05-07-2008, 06:04 PM
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| | | Re: Is this Bombus monticola? I would go with Cheilosia illustrata. | 
05-07-2008, 06:05 PM
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| | Re: Is this Bombus monticola? Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudedYellow I would go with Cheilosia illustrata. | I'd go with that; a hoverfly pretending to be a bumble! | 
05-07-2008, 07:24 PM
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| | | Re: Is this Bombus monticola? I wouldn't know the species of hoverfly, but it definitely is one mimicing a bumble bee.
Regards, Chris | 
05-07-2008, 07:50 PM
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| | | Re: Is this Bombus monticola? It's Merodon equestris | 
05-07-2008, 07:58 PM
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| | | Re: Is this Bombus monticola? Quote:
Originally Posted by oxycera It's Merodon equestris | seconded unless does Chelosia have that looped wing vein too? | 
05-07-2008, 08:00 PM
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| | | Re: Is this Bombus monticola? well spotted | 
06-07-2008, 06:54 AM
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| | | Re: Is this Bombus monticola? Quote:
Originally Posted by Gill Catton seconded unless does Chelosia have that looped wing vein too? | No, Chelosia don't have that loop in the wing vein so thanks for correcting me Oxycera and Gill.
Richard | 
06-07-2008, 07:17 PM
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| | | Re: Is this Bombus monticola? Once again, thanks everybody.
Merodon equestris is listed in my reference book but the image is of an almost entirely black specimen. I never realised they could be so variable in colour. Finally tracked down a Merodon version which has the same colour scheme as my fly; at Keith Edkins Insect Photos.
So why do the hard to identify species head for my little garden? More questions about insect ID to follow shortly, unless I can fathom them out myself. | 
07-07-2008, 06:29 AM
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| | | Re: Is this Bombus monticola? Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff F So why do the hard to identify species head for my little garden? More questions about insect ID to follow shortly, unless I can fathom them out myself. | Most insects are hard to identify. I think the hardest part is gaining enough experience to be able to rule out different possibilities. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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