Bumblebee ID please

[capester]

Hi guys, looking through my phots from N.Wales and cam across this. Any idea which species? I'm thinking Carder?

[aeshna5]

Looks like a very worn Bombus pascuorum.

[MartinL]

Originally Posted by aeshna5

Looks like a very worn Bombus pascuorum.

I agree;
Either a carder bee, or the much rarer Tree bumblebee (Bombus Hypnorum)
Would really need to see the abdomen to tell for sure, but if north of the Watford Gap it's probably the first.

[Dogghound]

Probably B.pascuorum but you cant really see any black hairs on the abdomen and a close look would help, to see if its just faded. B.humilis & B.muscorum can look similar especially when worn (and are both found in N. Wales).

B.hypnorum is distinctively different from this and show a different abdominal pattern. They are certainly found as far north as North Yorkshire (where I have recorded them this summer) if not further north.

[capester]

I have 2 more pics but not much more revealing I'm afraid!

[capester]

and this

[Matt Smith]

Probably B.pascuorum, but very faded and tatty.