| | S | M | T | W | T | F | S | | 29 | 30 |
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
| |
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
| |
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
| |
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
| |
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
31
| 1 | 2 | » Stats |
Members: 50,153
Threads: 82,340
Posts: 853,206
Top Poster: glsammy (15,069) | | Welcome to our newest member, Xalrahc | |  | 
21-08-2011, 06:54 PM
|  | Officer of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunny Lancashire
Posts: 609
| | | ID confirmation and behaviour help - please! I think this is Mellinus arvensis?
There were quite a few mating and afterwards the females were killing (I think ) flies. Not hoverflies, that were also plentiful and which my book says they mostly use.
I can't seem to find the info on what stage the females take the flies into the burrow. Do they lay into the corpse (if it is dead) or take the fly to the grubs - or both?
It was fascinating.
Acher
__________________ If you don't get everything you want, think of the things you don't get that you don't want. | 
21-08-2011, 07:32 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lincoln
Posts: 4,826
| | | Re: ID confirmation and behaviour help - please! It is Mellinus arvensis, one I have in my garden. I got them mating last year, the female immediately started to catch flies. They usually take Pollenia species, but they will take other flies.
I think the fly is placed in the pre-prepared nest then an egg is laid, the fly providing the larva with enough food to grow. Notice how the female sticks them through the tongue, gruesome!
__________________ http://cubits.org/buglife/ | 
21-08-2011, 09:49 PM
|  | Officer of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunny Lancashire
Posts: 609
| | | Re: ID confirmation and behaviour help - please! Thankyou, JRsbugs
I'm presuming the fly is dead then? I seem to remember some species of invertebrates use living but paralised food for their larvae.
Interesting they just lay one egg for each fly.
The insect world is indeed gruesome!
Ta again,
Acher
__________________ If you don't get everything you want, think of the things you don't get that you don't want. | 
21-08-2011, 09:55 PM
|  | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lincoln
Posts: 4,826
| | | Re: ID confirmation and behaviour help - please! I would assume the fly is dead, they hang onto the tongue for some time so I imagine the fly dies of shock if nothing else or they would be severely traumatised! I have some photos of one being pincered, not a pretty sight.
Considering the size of the wasp I think a whole fly per offspring would be necessary.
__________________ http://cubits.org/buglife/ | 
21-08-2011, 10:45 PM
| | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,192
| | | Re: ID confirmation and behaviour help - please! The flies are not dead - merely paralysed. If they were dead they would rot. The wasp larvae like their meat very fresh, so the fly gets eaten alive. Several flies are placed in each cell.
The "tounge grip" is just the way this species carries its prey - Oxybelus species carry their fly victims back to the nest impaled on their sting.
__________________ Tachinid Recording Scheme
www.Tachinidae.org.uk | 
22-08-2011, 05:20 PM
|  | Officer of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunny Lancashire
Posts: 609
| | | Re: ID confirmation and behaviour help - please! Ahhh - I thought that a bit of living meat might last a little better for the larvae.
Thanks again - both of you
Acher
__________________ If you don't get everything you want, think of the things you don't get that you don't want. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | |
Similar Threads | | Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post | | Bee behaviour. | TeresaW | Insects and Invertebrates | 2 | 21-06-2010 08:43 PM | | Bee Behaviour ?? | dmclean2 | Insects and Invertebrates | 1 | 26-04-2009 05:50 PM | | Bee ID and behaviour | Lord V | Insects and Invertebrates | 3 | 19-06-2008 11:17 AM | | Bee behaviour | Swirlything | Insects and Invertebrates | 3 | 12-09-2006 08:54 AM | | Bat Behaviour | RoPey | Mammal Forums | 19 | 21-07-2006 09:21 AM | | | | 31 members and 358 guests | | alanc15, Albabob, Astra, Dan_R, Douglas, earthdragon64, Elizabeth B, Gerel, glsammy, Goldmaxx, heron09, jeffnsue, Jim Ford, jo0ls, John_M, Kenneth Baldwin, markp, nutmeg, Pepsis, postmanhat, pressld2, Rambling Rob, rogpow, Sakke, shenk1, tufty, welsh.lensman, welshcameraman, Wharfrat, WildlifeWatcher | » New Wildlife Posts | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | » New Environment Posts | | | | | | | | | » New Activity Posts | | | | | | | | | » New Community Posts | | | Spammers! Yesterday 08:00 AM 5 Replies, 115 Views | | | | | |