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22-06-2011, 07:50 PM
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Can anyone help by confirming, or otherwise, my IDs.
Melanostoma scalare 
Syritta pipiens 
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22-06-2011, 07:59 PM
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Evening Peter,
You're spot-on with the second! Great work. Unfortunately though, the first is a controversial Eupeodes...
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22-06-2011, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason Green  Evening Peter,
You're spot-on with the second! Great work. Unfortunately though, the first is a controversial Eupeodes...
Take care,
Jason | Thank you Jason  .
I do have a number of images of #1. Are there any special features that would help with this one?
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22-06-2011, 08:22 PM
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I think the first one is Eupeodes latifasciatus. It can sometimes have separated spots, so can E. corollae male but the spots tend to have the shape of the former and they don't appear to reach the sides.
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22-06-2011, 08:23 PM
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Peter, please post the other images! 
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22-06-2011, 08:33 PM
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A side view or something from behind which clearly shows whether the outer edges of the spots actually touch the abdomen edge would be ideal, Peter.
From behind and slightly to one side is usually the perfect position for this.
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22-06-2011, 09:39 PM
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Thank you all for your help. These are more images of #1  
I hope these help
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22-06-2011, 09:59 PM
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Well Peter, it seems to have changed sex! That is Eupeodes corollae female (I'm sure the spots reach the sides in the second pic), the first one is a male so not the same fly.
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23-06-2011, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JRsbugs Well Peter, it seems to have changed sex! That is Eupeodes corollae female (I'm sure the spots reach the sides in the second pic), the first one is a male so not the same fly. | Oops you are so right Janet  . Memory is a strange thing. I took a total of four consequent frames of what I thought to be the same fly but of course it could not have been. Looking again at these, frame 1 and 4 are definitely male, frames 2 and 3 are female.
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