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16-06-2011, 06:11 AM
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| | | 3 Insects for ID please
Anyone know what these three insects are please? They were all seen on a wonderful ramble at Killinallan on Islay. Thanks. 
Different view of same insect: 
On Cuckoo Flower/Lady's Smock: 
Originally on White Clover:  |
16-06-2011, 09:48 AM
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1 & 2 - Sawfly
3 - Reed Beetle - Donacia sp.
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17-06-2011, 09:48 PM
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#3 Donacia semicuprea
#4 genus Omaloplia (syn. Homaloplia) and I think it is O. ruricola, but not for sure. There are some similar species in Europe and I don't know which of them appear in the UK.
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17-06-2011, 10:12 PM
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| | | Re: 3 Insects for ID please
1 & 2 looks like it's a Green-legged Sawfly (Tenthredo mesomelas) |
17-06-2011, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Klaas Reißmann  #4 genus Omaloplia (syn. Homaloplia) and I think it is O. ruricola, but not for sure. There are some similar species in Europe and I don't know which of them appear in the UK. | You are correct as ever! Only O. ruricola is listed in the UK coleoptera checklist. |
18-06-2011, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobbobthebob You are correct as ever! Only O. ruricola is listed in the UK coleoptera checklist. | Its a very good record for that far North as well... NBN Gateway: Omaloplia ruricola grid map
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18-06-2011, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Klaas Reißmann #3 Donacia semicuprea
Regards
Klaas | Not sure if it is this one Klaas...don't know if i'm looking at it wrong, but i'm possitive i can see a tooth on the hind femora?
If that's the case could D. versicolorea be the most likely?
Regards Chris...
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18-06-2011, 06:28 AM
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Hi guys and thanks for all the input. I've been checking the donacia spp. and don't know about anything scientific but the colouring looks more like thalassina to me? I checked NBN Gateway and semicuprea's range doens not extend into Scotland. What do you think? 
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18-06-2011, 09:22 AM
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Hi Chris,
in some way you are right and I'm an idiot. Maybe for excuse it was late in the evening and I was tired (11:48 UK-time is one hour later in Germany  ) and flipt threw it a little to fast.
You are right in the fact that this is not Donacia semicuprea. It isn't even a Donacia, but Plateumaris and in this P. sericea.
Thank's for your thoughts and help.
Regards
Klaas
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21-06-2011, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Klaas Reißmann Hi Chris,
in some way you are right and I'm an idiot. Maybe for excuse it was late in the evening and I was tired (11:48 UK-time is one hour later in Germany ) and flipt threw it a little to fast.
You are right in the fact that this is not Donacia semicuprea. It isn't even a Donacia, but Plateumaris and in this P. sericea.
Thank's for your thoughts and help.
Regards
Klaas | Well i never...it never occured to look at Plateumaris.
Your far from an idiot Klaas, it just proves how important it is to have specimens in hand.
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