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06-06-2011, 04:56 PM
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| | | Flying types for approximate ID, if poss!
There seem to be lots of different long, thin, colourful insects about and I'd appreciate a steer please, if anything is possible from only one or two rather shaky pics.
The first one is one I think I saw on the cliff the other day in great numbers - with very bright orangey-yellow abdomens.
The second fly, with the very short antennae, was busy running around on the leaves of a fatshedera (and as a supplementary I'd love to know what are the small, mottled creatures - as per the one nearby!)
And the third is much longer and thinner and could almost have been an ichneumon wasp, but no partic ovipositor in evidence. Any help appreciated!      |
06-06-2011, 05:03 PM
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| | | Re: Flying types for approximate ID, if poss!
I would say your first is a saw fly and the third is a male Ichneumon. |
06-06-2011, 05:26 PM
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| | | Re: Flying types for approximate ID, if poss!
Afternoon Rhona,
The first is an Athalia sawfly, then the Syrphid Xylota segnis and the last being another Sawfly species ( note the law antennal-segment count - only 9, as opposed to 16+, Tups  ).
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06-06-2011, 05:31 PM
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Totally brilliant and very kind! Many thanks as ever |
06-06-2011, 05:33 PM
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| | | Re: Flying types for approximate ID, if poss!
I tried  |
06-06-2011, 06:04 PM
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And I'm grateful! |
06-06-2011, 07:14 PM
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| | | Re: Flying types for approximate ID, if poss!
Last sawfly looks like another Tenthredopsis - there's been a few on recently and they are very variable.
First one Athalia rosae.
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06-06-2011, 07:46 PM
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| | | Re: Flying types for approximate ID, if poss!
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dogs2000  I tried | ... and if you don't try, you won't succeed!
I had to look a couple of times ( or 3!) to rule them out. This one is quite slim as far as the 'regular' Symphytan habitus goes. Don't be down-hearted!! |
06-06-2011, 10:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Green ... and if you don't try, you won't succeed!
I had to look a couple of times ( or 3!) to rule them out. This one is quite slim as far as the 'regular' Symphytan habitus goes. Don't be down-hearted!! | You are very kind Jason. Thank you for the encouragement to have a go. | | |
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