two bumblebees for ID

[jpscloud]

I'm a beginner with bumblebees... I think 1 and 2 are early bumblebee, and 3 and 4 I think are tree bumblebees?

[6Legs]

The brown one is B. Pascuorum, the black one is B. Lapidarius. You might want to look here for more info.

[JRsbugs]

It's difficult to say for sure, the first two look to be black with a red tail indication possibly Bombus lapidarius but there is a cuckoo bee which looks the same, Bombus rupestris female.

I can't make anything of the third, the fourth does look like Bombus hypnorum.

Janet

[jpscloud]

I really should have apologised for the picture quality - I have a cheap digital camera and zero skills! Thank you for the reply - the third picture is of the same bee as the fourth. First and second are also the same bee.

[jpscloud]

I should also mention that the bee in pics 3 and 4 has a very distinctive white tail which you can see in pic 4 but not pic 3.

As b. pascuorum doesn't have a distinctive white tail, can I assume this is the tree bumblebee? My garden's been busy with them all day.

[JRsbugs]

Yes, the white tail with the rest of the abdomen black (some in the UK do have a little orange hair at the top sides which I have seen recently) along with ginger thorax makes it B. hypnorum.

[jpscloud]

Thank you very much! I'm really delighted to have them visiting.

[6Legs]

Apologies for mis-ID, I thought the tail was part of the flower. This is a pic of B. Hypnorum which by pure chance I found in Icelands car park yesterday.

[Klaas Reißmann]

I wouldn't try to identify the first three bumble bees, but the fourth I would agree with Janet.

Regards
Klaas