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28-05-2011, 01:34 PM
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| | | Another Longhorn beetle From rough grassland on edge of wood. 9mm long, excluding antennae.
I wondered if it was Leiopus nebulosus ?
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Peter | 
28-05-2011, 09:09 PM
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| | | Re: Another Longhorn beetle Hi,
Leiopus nebulosus recently was separated into two species: Leiopus nebulosus and Leiopus linnei. Both species are very similar and occur in the same places in Germany. Leiopus linnei therefor should be the more common species, Leiopus nebulosus the more rare one. To separate both species you would need the genitalia to be absolutely sure and scientists do not agree and still discuss if L. linnei is a valid species or not.
In my mind, so Leiopus linnei is a good species, the one on the picture could be this. But this is everything but sure. I think the coleopterologists of the UK do have some work with this to figure out, if L. linnei is a species of the UK or not.
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28-05-2011, 09:51 PM
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| | | Re: Another Longhorn beetle That's extremely interesting Klaas
I am no expert on beetles and had used the identification guide by Andrew Duff in the Oct 2007 copy of British Wildlife. He makes no mention of L.linnei and says that L.nebulosa is widespread in woods in England & Wales, so obviously this is all new since then.
I think I will have to record it as Leiopus nebulosus/linnae.
Many thanks
Peter | 
28-05-2011, 10:16 PM
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| | | Re: Another Longhorn beetle Hi,
Andrew duff couldn't make any mention of Leiopus linnei, because it was not known at this time. L. linnei was "introduced" in the scientific world in 2010. so you're right: it's all new.
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Klaas
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12-07-2011, 04:56 PM
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| | | Re: Another Longhorn beetle Found this one struggling in the Bird bath, watched it drying off for the next 40 minutes, then it flew straight back into the Bird bath. | 
12-07-2011, 05:15 PM
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| | | Re: Another Longhorn beetle Quote:
Originally Posted by BloomingMarvellous Found this one struggling in the Bird bath, watched it drying off for the next 40 minutes, then it flew straight back into the Bird bath.  | This one is Rutpela maculata. | 
12-07-2011, 05:52 PM
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| | | Re: Another Longhorn beetle Checklist item nebulosus&type=pic&number=1&extension=jpg
Ther's a 2006 record of L.n. on the Virtual Fauna of Lakeland site, see above.
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