Bumble bee and Ichneumon wasp for ID

[djeyewater]

Can anyone suggest IDs for these two:

Large bumble bee on Scabious flower 23rd Sept. Tail is slightly orange coloured.


Ichneumon wasp - 9mm long (excluding antennae and ovipositor), date taken 23/09/2010


Thanks

Dave

[Matt Smith]

Bombus terrestris for the bumble bee - the ichneumon is anyones guess.

[nikolai_avenger]

Not sure about the Ichneumon. The black bottom half of the legs are foxing me. Interesting..


Regards, Nik.

[djeyewater]

Thanks for the Bumble bee id Matt, and thanks for taking a look at the Ichneumon Nik.

Dave