Couple of Dragonflies for ID, please

[briar rose]

I took these at two different places, and hopefully someone can ID them for me

Thank you

I thought this may have been a Migrant Hawker, but seeing the picture I'm not so sure now.


This is a bit difficult as is from the underside, but I'm a bit puzzled by the orange spots it has underneath, or may it just be a reflection, any ideas

[RoyW]

Hi,

Your first photo is a male Southern Hawker (broad green stripes on top of the thorax and blue bars instead of spots at the enf of the abdomen).
The second photo looks like a female Migrant Hawker (black and yellow striped on the side of the thorax).

[briar rose]

Thank you Roy

And thank you for your descriptions as well, they will come in very handy in the future