Ladybird for ID

[PeterD]

Can anyone help me identify this Ladybird please?



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Thanks

[whaleomeloette]

looks like a Harlequin to me but id with for someone else to confirm etc
http://www.ladybird-survey.org/downl...2006_v.1.3.pdf

[aeshna5]

Yes, Harlequin, f.spectabilis.

[whaleomeloette]

this may be a very stupid question

but Harmonia axyridis is the Harlequin ladybird; so are the
f.spectabilis some kind of sub species?
i mean if it was the same species just with a bit of a different pattern shouldnt they still all be called Harmonia axyridis
as other things can have varyable markings but dont have a name for each marking type?
if that made any sence at all

[PeterD]

Originally Posted by whaleomeloette

looks like a Harlequin to me but id with for someone else to confirm etc
http://www.ladybird-survey.org/downl...2006_v.1.3.pdf

Thanks for your ID. Now that I recall, it was larger than most Ladybirds. I had been looking for a 'W' marking to confirm Harlequin. I guess that this is not a fixed rule.

Originally Posted by aeshna5

Yes, Harlequin, f.spectabilis.

Thank you aeshna5 for your confirmation

[aeshna5]

Originally Posted by whaleomeloette

this may be a very stupid question

but Harmonia axyridis is the Harlequin ladybird; so are the
f.spectabilis some kind of sub species?
i mean if it was the same species just with a bit of a different pattern shouldnt they still all be called Harmonia axyridis
as other things can have varyable markings but dont have a name for each marking type?
if that made any sence at all

They are all H. axyridis. The f bit means (colour) form; it's not a subspecies. The 3 recognised forms so far recorded in the UK are succinea, spectabilis + conspicua. There are other forms not recorded here.

[PeterD]

Originally Posted by aeshna5

They are all H. axyridis. The f bit means (colour) form; it's not a subspecies. The 3 recognised forms so far recorded in the UK are succinea, spectabilis + conspicua. There are other forms not recorded here.

Thanks for clarifying this aeshna5

[whaleomeloette]

Originally Posted by aeshna5

They are all H. axyridis. The f bit means (colour) form; it's not a subspecies. The 3 recognised forms so far recorded in the UK are succinea, spectabilis + conspicua. There are other forms not recorded here.

i thought they would all be refared to as h. axyrdis but you confused me there when you came out with the other latin name! haha
thanks for explaining.