Two beetles for Id please

[jeremiah]

Two beetles for id please - both Wisley, by the old glasshouse site:

[Jason Green]

Evening Jeremiah,

First impressions - the first is potentially a Rhagonycha sp., and the next could be Cantharis rustica, though size would help differenciate between a couple of similar ones.

Both are Cantharidae.

Take care,

Jason

[jeremiah]

Thank you!

I've been googling for images and the Cantharis rustica looks quite likely.
I fished the Ragonycha out of a "water feature" in one of the school project gardens, so it was fairly bedraggled. I thought it might be Ragonycha translucida, or even cantharis cryptica, which I saw while looking for the other one. (I can't tell the two images apart.)

[Jason Green]

Looking again, I think the first is more likely Cantharis livida... still, I'd await other responses.