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Top Poster: glsammy (15,069) | | Welcome to our newest member, NeilYoungForever | |  | 
15-05-2010, 08:32 PM
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| | | Cheilosia sp. I would be very grateful for some help with this. I think they are an incredibly difficult group.
I found it along my usual woodland ride. WL 9mm, male.
I think it belongs to S&F's Carbonaria group & is provbably C.vernalis but it seems a bit large & a no of features don't fit eg no orange on tibiae. However I know it can be very variable.
The following features might help :
Eyes hairy ( black hairs )
Antennae all black
Legs all black except for yellow mid tarsal segments
Sternites glossy inc. pregenital segment
Hairs on tergites erect & pale
Any views would be very gratefully received.
Peter  | 
15-05-2010, 09:03 PM
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| | | Re: Cheilosia sp. Those front tarsi suggest albitarsis/ranunculi
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15-05-2010, 09:38 PM
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| | | Re: Cheilosia sp. That was actually my first thought John but I went off it because I couldn't see any orange on the halteres ( pale white ) & the third antennal segments are very long, nothing like those of albitarsis/ranunculi . Also I thought that with these only the front tarsi should have the yellow tarsal segments 2-4.
Peter | 
15-05-2010, 09:48 PM
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| | | Re: Cheilosia sp. Right, and they are usually found on dandelion in damp meadows. I'll have to have another think.
__________________ John Coldwell | 
17-05-2010, 09:11 PM
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| | | Re: Cheilosia sp. Hello John
I wondered if you had had time to think about this, or should I just put it down as Cheilosia sp. I do still have it if there is anything more you would like to know.
Peter | 
18-05-2010, 04:47 PM
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| | | Re: Cheilosia sp. Hello Peter
The best you can call it is Cheilosia albitarsis agg.
The Recorder package has the capacity to record as agg. so we can use this record.
Regards
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