A bug and a beetle for ID please.

[Gerel]

Hi all,

Two from leaf litter today.

This looks like a macropterous damsel bug to me, but I can't decide which one.



The second one is a Carabid, possibly a Leistus sp. ? Quite small around 6-7mm long.



I doubt that a species is possible from this pic. but genus would be good.

Steve

[Fauna]

The carabid looks good for Leistus fulvibarbis...

[tristanba]

the bug looks like Nabis rugosus, although the wings are usually just short of the abdomen in this sp

[Gerel]

Originally Posted by Fauna

The carabid looks good for Leistus fulvibarbis...

Thanks, from descriptions I had expected L. fulvibarbis to show more blue on the eletra but looking at web pictures the blue is not always that obvious.

Originally Posted by tristanba

the bug looks like Nabis rugosus, although the wings are usually just short of the abdomen in this sp

Thanks Tristan, I've only ever seen the short winged form. Out of interest, any idea what sort of proportion of N. rugosa are full winged?

Steve

[tristanba]

not sure Steve, but they aren't very common and certainly atypical

[Fauna]

Originally Posted by Gerel

Thanks, from descriptions I had expected L. fulvibarbis to show more blue on the eletra but looking at web pictures the blue is not always that obvious.

Still trying to get to grips with carabids...but i believe the only other that there can be confusion with here is L.rufomarginatus, this should show a reddish colour to the margins of the elytra and pronotum. Also your pic shows the hind angles of the pronotum to be at right angles, L.rufomarginatus pronotum has no angle...hope this helps?

[Paul mabbott]

I can see no elytral 'tooth': if that's correct then it can only be L. fulvibarbis. However, the definition of the photograph in that area isn't great so I may be wrong. It does look like Leistus fulvibarbis ....