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08-02-2010, 08:12 PM
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| | | Gnat with plumose antennae - Bucks 7th Feb Stony Stratford, Bucks.
Size: 4.75mm
Help with identification appreciated:
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08-02-2010, 08:22 PM
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| | | Re: Gnat with plumose antennae - Bucks 7th Feb Its a male Chironomid. If thats much help, I wouldnt know where to start with Species though. | 
08-02-2010, 08:54 PM
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| | | Re: Gnat with plumose antennae - Bucks 7th Feb Evening Bruce,
I believe the identity of these lies in the shape of the male's genetalia - as you've photographed, so well done! I take it that is the underside? Next you'd need a key to these species ( Maybe Delta-Intkey or the FSC has one?), and the process being similar to Winter Gnats - based on the shape of the outer and inner curved bits - not too sure of the technicals  , but relatively straight-forward.
Maybe you'd still need a dead one under the 'scope, but that's a great image all the same - and for all I know, may be enough.
Take care, Jason
Last edited by Jason Green; 08-02-2010 at 08:56 PM.
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08-02-2010, 11:06 PM
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| | | Re: Gnat with plumose antennae - Bucks 7th Feb Dan - Thanks for your help with this one  .
Sorry Jason, the insert showing the end of the abdomen is from the top not underneath. The insect is alive and so, short of squishing it  , I couldn't get a ventral shot. In fact the cropped image with the inset is actually the same shot as the pic showing the full insect.
Bruce | 
09-02-2010, 12:00 AM
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| | | Re: Gnat with plumose antennae - Bucks 7th Feb Ah, OK. Still, it needn't be a problem - just use a specimen jar to trap a male, and then gently turn the pot over and photograph the underside. See my related thread: [ID] Insects, please ()!, and look at the last species - the Trichocerid, where I photographed a male's genetalia ventrally.
My male ended up being annulata ( typcal  ), the only one of our 11-or-so Winter Gnat species that can be ID'd dorsally from good photos ( where the species has a banded abdomen, clear when the wings are held apart which is infrequent). Still, I suppose my photo could have done with being closer, but with your set-up I should think you could as long as you can focus through the plastic sufficiently.
Let us know if you get one!
Last edited by Jason Green; 09-02-2010 at 12:05 AM.
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09-02-2010, 10:19 AM
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| | | Re: Gnat with plumose antennae - Bucks 7th Feb Thanks for the advice Jason - I'll give it a try.
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