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Old 30-10-2009, 11:19 AM
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Chalcid wasp ? and friends

Think this is a chalcid wasp around 2.5mm body length and very black all over but had some mite friends. 2nd shot is a crop from the first with 2 of the mites in it- they come out at about 0.15mm long. Taken at 5:1 FF with an MPE-65 lens

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Re: Chalcid wasp ? and friends

Superb shot - very well done - that MP-E65 is an incredible piece of work but how do you get the depth of field? What flash system are you using?

I am guessing that the mites are phoretic - hitchhikers, rather than parasites. I see them a lot of samples of neotropical Hymenoptera and Diptera, all clustered together and holding on for dear life.

The "chalcid" might be a chalcid but it isn't common to see all-black ones so it could be one of the other groups - not sure. Did you get any dorsal shots?
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how do you get the depth of field?
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Re: Chalcid wasp ? and friends

Thanks for the comments Chris

DOF is from focus stacking several shots (by hand) - flash is just my std 430Ex diffused flash on a bracket. Camera on RHS in this pic Flickr Photo Download: camera rigs although I'm using a 5Dmk2 now with the MPE-65


Slightly more dorsal view of what I'm pretty certain is the same species (not the same specimen though) here Flickr Photo Download: Chalcid wasp

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What depth of field????
Try shooting at 5:1 mag and you will see what Chris means
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Re: Chalcid wasp ? and friends

Hi Brian,

Sorry, I can't help with the ID other than it being a Chalcidoidea! As Chris says - do you have a dorsal? I'm sure in such cases wing venation would help get to family at least.

I love the images by the way! What a lovely piece of kit the MPE-65 is... amazing detail. Do the antennas look like they've been sprinkled with desicated coconut, or is it just me? Just me then...

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Re: Chalcid wasp ? and friends

Brian - how about Scelionidae or Platygastridae?

See this page of Keys for the latter group... http://www.waspweb.org/Platygastroidea/Keys/index.htm Being as though I have a lovely Linux OS, I'm unable to use them, or get suitable plug-ins...
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Re: Chalcid wasp ? and friends

Thanks for the comments and ID possibles Jason.
Not that I'm much good at small wasp ID's but pretty certain it's not a Scelionid wasp - they always look like charging spanish bulls to me - much larger head to body size than this but might be Platygastridae.
I sometimes get an American University prof helping me with ID's of these on flickr but he's not seen this one yet

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Spalangia sp. (Pteromalidae)
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Welcome to the forum David, and thanks for the ID ... I'm sure we won't find a person better qualified to talk about tiny paraasitica! I always (mistakenly) think that Pteromalidae will all be green and shiny but obviously black ones do occur ... for a while I thought that it might be one of "your" groups, like the Diapriidae
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