Ichneumon id

[col188]

Similar/same ichneumon, found in the same location (garage) as a previous one posted, a month or so ago.
ichneumon + Moth? + bee iding

Col

[ChrisR]

It does look similar to the one you posted in the other thread but I agree with some of the posters there that it isn't Stenichneumon militarius - there are too many differences in the markings and the shape & rugosity. Aside from that ichneumons are not the kind of insects you can reliably identify by comparing photos - there is far too much convergence of morphology and too many alternative species/genera

Best bet it to post the photos on the HymIS forum and let the real experts there cast their verdict

[col188]

Originally Posted by ChrisR

It does look similar to the one you posted in the other thread but I agree with some of the posters there that it isn't Stenichneumon militarius - there are too many differences in the markings and the shape & rugosity. Aside from that ichneumons are not the kind of insects you can reliably identify by comparing photos - there is far too much convergence of morphology and too many alternative species/genera

Best bet it to post the photos on the HymIS forum and let the real experts there cast their verdict

Thanks for the link Chris...... can recommend it
The one with the white marking was IDed as Coelichneumon desinatorius by Camille Thirion a Belgium expert, who has an exceptional site http://www.cthirion.com/images/
Col

[ChrisR]

Originally Posted by col188

Thanks for the link Chris...... can recommend it
The one with the white marking was IDed as Coelichneumon desinatorius by Camille Thirion a Belgium expert, who has an exceptional site Laboratoire: Insectes et environnement
Col

Glad you liked HymIS ... if Camille Thirion gives you an ID then that is as good as you'll ever get - she really knows her ichneumons. Also, if she doesn't know then she won't just guess - she'll find another expert to ask