Leafhopper Fagocyba cruenta?

JRsbugs · #1 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 09:56 PM

Hi,

I got some better shots yesterday of a possible Fagocyba cruenta, or F. carri but I have a feeling even these won't get it to species. Can try though!

One point I would like to know, how do these start off, as a type of caterpillar? I ask because there was a yellowish cat. about 3mm long crawling along a spider's thread under a Blue Tit box yesterday near this one.

Janet

Gerel · #2 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 10:07 PM

Far as I know they all hatch as tiny nymphs in typical bug fashion. Don't think there are any that look like caterpillars.

No idea about ID query though, I tend not to see the little yellow/green ones

Steve

JRsbugs · #3 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerel

Far as I know they all hatch as tiny nymphs in typical bug fashion. Don't think there are any that look like caterpillars.

No idea about ID query though, I tend not to see the little yellow/green ones

Steve

Lol Steve, you're not looking hard enough.

Have you seen a nymph of these, or a pic? I haven't but I will look around! I don't think there's any on the site we use for ID.

JRsbugs · #4 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 10:22 PM

Well I googled and found a pic straight away of a leafhopper nymph! Don't know which one though.

Leafhopper Nymph

It's just that these have a grub-like abdomen, I found one which has been parasitised, with eggs probably a wasp!

Gerel · #5 (**permalink**) 07-10-2009, 11:40 PM

I've found a few nymphs of various species Janet, this colourful one is my favourite though,

identified by Joe as Mocydia crocea.

Steve

Acutipuerilis · #6 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 07:31 AM

Well, the good news is I'm pretty sure it's in the Typhlocybini...

Fagocyba sp. is certainly an option, and I agree it could potentially be carri. However, it could also be Ossiannilssonola callosa (if about 4 mm long rather than 3mm?), or even one of about 17 species of Edwardsiana that are only seperably by dissection, although those are usually paler in colour. I don't think it's likely to be anything else, though!

Acutipuerilis · #7 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 07:36 AM

p.s. There are a few nymphs up there (e.g. Edwardsiana rosae and Dikraneura variata), but they're often difficult to match up to adults, so it's slow going...

JRsbugs · #8 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 01:06 PM

Nice nymph Steve, I can see why it's a favourite!

JRsbugs · #9 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Acutipuerilis

Well, the good news is I'm pretty sure it's in the Typhlocybini...

Fagocyba sp. is certainly an option, and I agree it could potentially be carri. However, it could also be Ossiannilssonola callosa (if about 4 mm long rather than 3mm?), or even one of about 17 species of Edwardsiana that are only seperably by dissection, although those are usually paler in colour. I don't think it's likely to be anything else, though!

Well that narrows it down a bit doesn't it, lol!

Unfortunately I'm not into taking specimens, or fortunately for the bug in question.

There is one I mentioned though under a Camellia leaf, under the Oak tree, which I think could be the same, parasitised with a bunch of eggs I think on it's tail end. I took some pics but it was difficult to get using one hand to hold the leaf up, also the angle was difficult but I do that often!

I need to go outside now to get more of that sun which has just gone behind clouds, will upload pics later.

JRsbugs · #10 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 02:23 PM

I've looked all over for the parasitised bug but I can't find it again, it's not a huge Camellia and I think I know approx. where it was. May have got eaten..

Good job I got some pics!