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23-07-2009, 05:31 PM
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| |  [ID] Two leafhoppers and a fly, please!
Hi all,
Two leafhoppers and a fly, please! 23/07/2009   Both found in grassland, is #1 a Zygina? ...and #2 found in a tree, though I don't know which type  23/07/2009  A hover or Xylomyid? Not too sure... any ideas welcome!
Thanks for reading.
Take care,
Jason 
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23-07-2009, 06:26 PM
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| | | Re: [ID] Two leafhoppers and a fly, please!
hoppers are Alebra albostriella (f) typica and Balclutha punctata |
23-07-2009, 06:31 PM
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| | | Re: [ID] Two leafhoppers and a fly, please!
The orange stripey one is Alebra sp. - only three species, but they're quite tricky to separate, and very variable in colour forms. My hunch for this one is coryli. The other is much easier - Balclutha punctata - a very widespread and generally common species that's easiest to find in the winter.  |
23-07-2009, 06:32 PM
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Excellent - thanks Tristan and Joe. |
23-07-2009, 06:33 PM
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Albostriatella was my second choice!  I didn't want to be certain either way without seeing the spine bases on the legs, but Tristan's looked at this genus more than I have. |
23-07-2009, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Acutipuerilis  Albostriatella was my second choice! I didn't want to be certain either way without seeing the spine bases on the legs, but Tristan's looked at this genus more than I have. | Thanks. I usually try for at least a top and side, but this one was in a difficult place to get the camera. |
23-07-2009, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Acutipuerilis Albostriatella was my second choice! I didn't want to be certain either way without seeing the spine bases on the legs, but Tristan's looked at this genus more than I have. | I wasn't absolutely certain to be fair - Jasons image just looks very like one of mine which I identified as albostriatella but I need to remind myself of the literature. If dots at the bases of the tibial spines are involved then ID to species is not possible here.
Fly looks interesting! |
23-07-2009, 07:14 PM
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Thanks Tristan. As I said, I should've tried for a side-shot - I usually do...
Should I play it safe and say Alebra sp., then? Yes, the second is amazingly variable!  |
24-07-2009, 08:58 PM
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That's an interesting fly Jason. Not a hoverfly. I wonder if its some sort of Ephydrid? Anyway, this thread is flagged up again, perhaps Laurence will come in. |
24-07-2009, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lync That's an interesting fly Jason. Not a hoverfly. I wonder if its some sort of Ephydrid? Anyway, this thread is flagged up again, perhaps Laurence will come in. | Thanks Lync, interesting indeed! I'd better remove it with haste from my Hoverfly page 
The curl to the femur is interesting.
Last edited by Jason Green; 24-07-2009 at 09:34 PM.
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