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20-07-2009, 08:40 PM
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| | | Mistaken identity. Need an ID
Could you help me with another bug. I thought this was a red garden ant, and took a photo of it, then looked at the photo and it looks more like a parasitic wasp than an ant.
As the photo shows, it was found on an outside wall. This is near a damp place, nettles, thistles.  |
21-07-2009, 03:32 PM
| | Commander of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: S. Devon
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| | | Re: Mistaken identity. Need an ID
That is certainly an interesting conundrum and I can't offer an easy answer.
I agree that it doesn't show a typical ant like waist, but it isn't really very wasp like either and apparently lacks wings. There are a few wingless solitary wasps which have a slightly thicker waist but the antennae on your specimen are a bit on the long side and would appear to have an 'elbow' joint. Can you remember if this is correct as it would help to narrow down the possibilities.
There are a few wingless beetles and bugs but I can't easily match anything up. On the other hand it could possibily be a creature which has lost it's wings (eg after mating) or a juvenile which is yet to develop them.
Hopefully, this will encourage one of the 'real experts' to come along and give a more informed opinion. |
21-07-2009, 03:55 PM
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| | | Re: Mistaken identity. Need an ID
A wingless ichneumon - maybe a Gelis sp.? |
21-07-2009, 04:31 PM
|  | Officer of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Earth - I think
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| | | Re: Mistaken identity. Need an ID
Looks rather like an ichneumon I saw the other day laying eggs in a spider egg sac in one of my moths traps. I too dismissed it as an ant at a glance, but when I looked closer realised it was an ichneumon. |
21-07-2009, 06:11 PM
| | Officer of the Wild Empire | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nanjing, China
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| | | Re: Mistaken identity. Need an ID
Either Gelis or something very similar... |
22-07-2009, 09:08 AM
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| | | Re: Mistaken identity. Need an ID
Apart from the image I don't really have much to go on, I just thought it was an ant, and really didn't look at it that well. Sorry 
I'll keep looking around for a similar creature again, hopefully I'll find it again and get a better photo.
Not that I should question the expects, but isn't the ichneumon wasp a bit big, this little creature was only about 6-8mm long? |
22-07-2009, 09:14 AM
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| | | Re: Mistaken identity. Need an ID
There are a lot of ichneumons  | | |
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