Pupa on pine

mickmassie · #1 (**permalink**) 23-06-2009, 09:14 PM

I thought this pupa was a ladybird at first, but I can't find a match. The legs appear to be free. Any ideas ?

Dogghound · #2 (**permalink**) 24-06-2009, 05:52 PM

Its coleoptera possibly chrysomelidae

charlieb · #3 (**permalink**) 24-06-2009, 06:15 PM

Ladybird isn't it?

mickmassie · #4 (**permalink**) 24-06-2009, 06:34 PM

But which one ? We thought it might be Eyed LB, but it isn't like the photos I have found. M.

charlieb · #5 (**permalink**) 24-06-2009, 06:38 PM

Can't find a match either (though it hasn't hardened yet)

Rearing some Eyed Ladybirds at the moment, so if no-one else knows will be able to tell you soon hopefully..

Paul mabbott · #6 (**permalink**) 24-06-2009, 06:58 PM

Certainly very similar to a ladybird - freshly formed pupa in 'flicking' position but the protrusions along the side of the body and the free legs aren't (to my knowledge) seen in coccinellids. It may look quite different tomorrow .... I would think Dogg's suggestion is possible .... how big is this?

Dogghound · #7 (**permalink**) 24-06-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieb

Ladybird isn't it?

Both very similar I wouldnt rule out chrysomelid just yet.

charlieb · #8 (**permalink**) 24-06-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul mabbott

but the protrusions along the side of the body and the free legs aren't (to my knowledge) seen in coccinellids.

Have a look at these piccies: Lady Beetle Larva and Pupa - Harmonia axyridis

mickmassie · #9 (**permalink**) 24-06-2009, 07:49 PM

Hmm, you live and learn. This was a large Haxy pupa size. I must have seen a million Haxy pupae (not at all stages) but the photos in charlieb's link look very convincing. It didn't have the crown of thorns, maybe that was hidden or not yet developed. The free-ish legs had me fooled. I'll go back and find it again next week. Thanks to all. Mick.