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23-09-2008, 10:22 PM
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| | | Unidentified brown and black bug
Stockgrove Country Park, Beds.
Spent quite a bit of time trying to identify this one without success  . Your help appreciated as always. 
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23-09-2008, 10:36 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified brown and black bug
Hi Bruce,
Pretty sure it's a Lygaeidae and a good deal less sure it'll be some Gastrodes ... maybe grossipes(??) ... really not my forte these .. might as well be a Drymus for all I know (or something different still) ... but maybe that makes searching easier 
Good luck 
For images of some of these (BB seems not to have most) have a look here: insektenfotos.de Lygaeidae scratchpad koleopterologie.de
Waarneming.nl G.abietum, G.grossipes, Drymus spp
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23-09-2008, 10:52 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified brown and black bug
Have a look here. If you have an image showing the thorns indicated it should be genus Gastrodes. If it is Gastrodes, then it must indeed be grossipes, as in abietum the first antennae segment would be much shorter, not or hardly ending beyond the tip of the head ( grossipes: 1/3 of the length sticking out in front - as seen clearly in your image).
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23-09-2008, 10:56 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified brown and black bug
Indeed this is Gastrodes grossipes - associated with pines. Great image Bruce!
Cheers
Tristan |
23-09-2008, 11:49 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified brown and black bug
Looks like a shield bug of some type to me guys???
Sorry to appear ignorant but, is it a shield bug???
Naturegirl 
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24-09-2008, 12:06 AM
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| | | Re: Unidentified brown and black bug
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Originally Posted by naturegirl  Looks like a shield bug of some type to me guys?? | Well, yes, looks (a bit) like it of course - it is a true bug after all Personally I think they look a tad more like leaf/plant bugs (Miridae), but then I'm probably only being daft as Lygaeidae and Pentatomoidea (shield bugs) are both Pentatomomorpha and Miridae are Cimicomorpha 
Anyway, I think in English tongues Lygaeidae (such as Bruce's Gastrodes) would be a chinch bug or seed bug ... am I right?
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24-09-2008, 12:15 AM
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| | | Re: Unidentified brown and black bug
Blimey mate!!!!
I'm just an amateur here!!
Talk to me in 'moth speak' please?????
Very confused...........
Naturegirl Quote:
Originally Posted by Pudding4brains Well, yes, looks (a bit) like it of course - it is a true bug after all Personally I think they look a tad more like leaf/plant bugs (Miridae), but then I'm probably only being daft as Lygaeidae and Pentatomoidea (shield bugs) are both Pentatomomorpha and Miridae are Cimicomorpha
Anyway, I think in English tongues Lygaeidae (such as Bruce's Gastrodes) would be a chinch bug or seed bug ... am I right?
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24-09-2008, 12:31 AM
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| | | Re: Unidentified brown and black bug
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Originally Posted by naturegirl Talk to me in 'moth speak' please????? | The way I understand it the Moth/Butterfly people should be well accustomed to splitting things up beyond silly - are there actually any genera out there with more than 2 species in it  
I guess in Moth-speak calling a Lygaeidae a "shield bug" is like calling a geometer moth an owlet moth or so ... digg??  Arp |
24-09-2008, 08:00 AM
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| | | Re: Unidentified brown and black bug
Thanks for your comments and help with identification everyone.
There's a lot of coniferous trees in the area (Scotts Pine, Larch and Norway Spruce in particular) so a Pine-cone Bug should feel very much at home.
Bruce |
24-09-2008, 10:39 AM
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| | | Re: Unidentified brown and black bug
Naturegirl: It's not ignorant. It does look shieldbug-like, though a little more narrow. Bruce: always interesting posts backed up with high-qual images... you seem to find a lot more interesting insects than me!
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