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22-08-2008, 06:42 PM
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| | | Unidentified Harvestman with unusually long pedipalps
Stockgrove Country Park, Beds. On fencepost.
Made the mistake of kneeling on some stinging nettles whilst taking these pics. Gave me a real eye-waterer of a sting - even through my jeans!
Help with identification appreciated.  
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22-08-2008, 06:48 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Harvestman with unusually long pedipalps
Can't answer your query re ID Bruce, but those shots are fantastic! Incredible detail. I'm sure someone will be able to id them from these pictures though.Wow!
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22-08-2008, 06:52 PM
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| |  Re: Unidentified Harvestman with unusually long pedipalps
Crikey mate I’ve never seen a harvestman spider in close up like your pic its great, such detail. don't worry some one will ID it for you before the day is out 
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22-08-2008, 07:17 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Harvestman with unusually long pedipalps
Hi Bruce,
Nice crisp images (as always  ) of a male Phalangium opilio.
They do have very long pedipalps, but the easiest character for these are the positively huge chelicera - only the males have these and no other NW-European species (to my knowledge) |
22-08-2008, 07:20 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Harvestman with unusually long pedipalps
Just going by the coloration I would suggest Phalangium opilio; but there are a few others which look quite similar.
Mitopus morio is a long shot, they tend to like cool damp places, but is worth considering. |
22-08-2008, 10:11 PM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Harvestman with unusually long pedipalps
Jules and Crockett - Thank you for your kind and encouraging words . Arp - Yes I noticed the large and nicely marked chelicera even as I was taking the photos. This was a very handsome individual and although awkward to get to (cos of the nettles) was (fortunately) fairly tolerant of my camera lens. Thanks for the id and info. Geoff - Thanks for your help with identification.
Bruce |
23-08-2008, 12:04 AM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Harvestman with unusually long pedipalps
Wow. What clarity! Who would have thought these close-ups were of the humble Harvestman. Actually it looks more like a crustacean in these pics!
Good work,
D.
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23-08-2008, 08:49 AM
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| | Re: Unidentified Harvestman with unusually long pedipalps
There you go Bruce, the ID came within half an hour cleaver lot on here arn't they Pudding4brains ehy! gi mi some then
DC 
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23-08-2008, 09:00 AM
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| | | Re: Unidentified Harvestman with unusually long pedipalps
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Or was that Brains4pudding ... ?? ... I'm sooooooo confused  Arp |
23-08-2008, 10:39 AM
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| |  Re: Unidentified Harvestman with unusually long pedipalps
Thanks Dutchess....and yes I agree it does have a very crustacean look to it, doesn't it. Your comment prompted me to do a bit of Googling on what might be known about the evolution of the Harvestman. Anyway, I found a (quite extensive) preview of Harvestmen By Ricardo Pinto-da-Rocha, Glauco Machado, Gonzalo Giribet on "Google Book Search" that contains the following on the origin of the harvestman: "Recent discoveries show unequivocally that harvestmen are at least 400 million years old and that by this stage they were fully terrestrial, air-breathing animals. Given that this oldest known example (ie, 400mya) is astonishingly modern looking it seems reasonable to predict that harvestmen existed in the Silurian or even earlier. ......We can only speculate what pre-Devonian harvestmen or their forebears might have looked like, and whether the common ancestor of the group was an aquatic or terrestrial animal."
If you're interested the link for this Google book is as follows: Harvestmen: The Biology of Opiliones You're right DC, it's a great forum with a whole bunch of helpful members who are more than generous with their know-what and know-how.
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