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24-06-2008, 10:19 AM
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| | | Damselfly ID
Hi,
Could someone tell me what this Damselfly is, i've had a quick perusal through the Gallery but no luck and also the British Dragonfly Society website with the same results! I'm sure it's very common and i know the pic isn't all that great, but i've found myself collecting Dragonfly photos, more so seeing how close i can get without them flitting off!! The other i attach is how close i did get yesterday evening to a Common Hawker!   |
24-06-2008, 10:37 AM
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| | | Re: Damselfly ID
That first i think is a blue-tailed. I am sure someone posted one of those purple variants not that long ago! what a beauty!  |
24-06-2008, 04:03 PM
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| |  Re: Damselfly ID
The first photo is a female Blue-tailed Damselfly of the form violacea.
The second photo looks like a Southern Hawker to me, with broader ante-humeral stripes (on thorax) than Common Hawker; also the mushroom- like black mark on the frons (infront of eyes) is typical of former species + not the latter. |
24-06-2008, 05:27 PM
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| | | Re: Damselfly ID
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Originally Posted by aeshna5  The second photo looks like a Southern Hawker to me, with broader ante-humeral stripes (on thorax) than Common Hawker; also the mushroom- like black mark on the frons (infront of eyes) is typical of former species + not the latter. | Agree with the antehumeral stripes but I had not realised that the species differed in the shape of a the black mark on the frons. I have had a quick look at the few pictures of my own of Common Hawker and they seem to have a similar black mark. Is it the close-up shape (as shown very well above) that is different?
Richard |
25-06-2008, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudedYellow Agree with the antehumeral stripes but I had not realised that the species differed in the shape of a the black mark on the frons. I have had a quick look at the few pictures of my own of Common Hawker and they seem to have a similar black mark. Is it the close-up shape (as shown very well above) that is different?
Richard | Perhaps I was a bit rash about this feature; looking in Dragons of Europe says that T-mark on frons has thick stem for Common Hawker. The shape is a bit different to Southern Hawker, but I'm not sure how variable this feature is?
Rarely see this feature in the field unless dragon is settled. |
25-06-2008, 06:26 AM
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| | | Re: Damselfly ID
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Originally Posted by serendipity That first i think is a blue-tailed. I am sure someone posted one of those purple variants not that long ago! what a beauty! | I was lucky enough to catch a pic one of these at the beginning of the season: 
cloughie89: Nice pics and well done on getting so close to the Hawker.
Dave |
25-06-2008, 06:55 AM
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| | | Re: Damselfly ID
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Originally Posted by aeshna5 Rarely see this feature in the field unless dragon is settled. | Thanks Aeshna - I am going to look more closely at your 'faces' this year! |
25-06-2008, 08:11 AM
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| | | Re: Damselfly ID
To help here's the exact same Dragonfly in widescreen! So do I have a Southern or a Common? Thanks for all your help and comments!  |
25-06-2008, 08:26 AM
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Southern Hawker, great shots |
25-06-2008, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by cloughie89 To help here's the exact same Dragonfly in widescreen! So do I have a Southern or a Common? | It is a Southern Hawker. | | |
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