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22-06-2007, 10:21 AM
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| | | Kidney-spot?
Is this the Kidney-spot ladybird ( Chilocorus renipustulatus)? I'm never quite sure if they are just another form of one of the more common ladybirds, like a 2-spot ...  P.s. It was tiny ....   |
22-06-2007, 10:25 AM
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| | | Re: Kidney-spot?
Quite large as ladybirds go really 
Yes, Chilocorus renipustulatus the kidney-spot although they seldom have kidney-shaped marks. The only thing that has central spots like this is one of the melanic 'harlequin' variants but they always have white marks down the sides of the pronotum. |
22-06-2007, 10:26 AM
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| | | Re: Kidney-spot?
Looking at its round shape i would say its Chilocorus renipustulatus two spotted and kidney spot are about the same size, but conifident this one is the kidney spot |
22-06-2007, 10:41 AM
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| | | Re: Kidney-spot?
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Originally Posted by Dogghound  Looking at its round shape i would say its Chilocorus renipustulatus two spotted and kidney spot are about the same size, but conifident this one is the kidney spot | This is probably a stupid question but how do you know its not a 2-spot?
Ashe (still trying to learn ladybirds) |
22-06-2007, 10:52 AM
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| | | Re: Kidney-spot?
As Dogghound mentioned, it's the wrong shape, rounder with a rim around the outside of the hindbody. That's not always so obvious but  in the 2-spot the fore spots always reach the outside (shoulder) of the elytra and are not rounded.
Also, they sometimes have white on the forebody, which kidney-spot never has ... Quote:
Originally Posted by asheleaf This is probably a stupid question but how do you know its not a 2-spot?
Ashe (still trying to learn ladybirds) |
Last edited by Paul mabbott; 22-06-2007 at 10:54 AM.
Reason: afterthought and typo
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22-06-2007, 10:58 AM
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| | | Re: Kidney-spot?
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott As Dogghound mentioned, it's the wrong shape, rounder with a rim around the outside of the hindbody. That's not always so obvious but in the 2-spot the fore spots always reach the outside (shoulder) of the elytra and are not rounded.
Also, they sometimes have white on the forebody, which kidney-spot never has ... | thanks paul, thats been a great help. You've given me lots of useful pointers. And your photo shows them up clearly. Now i have to go and find a kidney-spot too practice on.
thanks, Ashe |
22-06-2007, 11:05 AM
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| | | Re: Kidney-spot?
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Originally Posted by asheleaf thanks paul, thats been a great help. You've given me lots of useful pointers. And your photo shows them up clearly. Now i have to go and find a kidney-spot too practice on.
thanks, Ashe |
Best bet is on ash trees! |
22-06-2007, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott Best bet is on ash trees! | Mine was on a dock leaf!!
Thanks for all your help, guys - invaluable as ever! |
22-06-2007, 11:10 AM
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| | | Re: Kidney-spot?
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott Quite large as ladybirds go really | It's only that big because I enlarged the photograph, Paul ... it wasn't that big in real life ...  |
23-06-2007, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul mabbott Best bet is on ash trees! |
thanks paul, we have a few iof them around here. and i'll watch out for dock beneath them.
thats my saturday sorted!
(plus there's the poo in the garden to id and the continuing search for Bryony pupa.....)
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