Help with identification

[clueless]

Hello, I'm new to this site but wondered if someone could help out with the identification of a couple of insects my son found in the garden (if I can work out how to get the pics on).
Take care.
Sharon





Sorry, the pics aren't that good.

[Pigeon feather]

Hi, the first one looks like a frog hopper but I am unsure of the second one

[ianlenny]

The bottom one looks like a wee parasitic grub emerging from inside the fly, was the fly moving, 'cos that would be a clue, I think the top one's some kind of aphid or something though, Good luck, Ian.

[clueless]

Thanks pigeon feather

Hi Ian and thanks, the bug in the bottom pic wasn't moving but there were quite a few of them in the same area. I've got another pic of one of them from the back which I'll post in a minute.

[Bramble]

Would that be a newly hatched froghopper? The ones I see are normally shades of brown. No idea what the second one is!

[Laurence Clemons]

The bottom is a species of sawfly. It looks like Arge pagana.

[clueless]

Here's another picture of one of the black and orange creatures (sorry, not that great again).

Sharon

[clueless]

Thanks Laurence

You lot are fantastic, thanks all of you for replying so quickly. We're going outside to try to find them again now that we know what they are.
Take care.
Sharon

[Laurence Clemons]

The larvae of the sawfly are associated with roses but the adults can often be found feeding on umbels e.g. wild parsnip and hogweed.

[smartie]

Hmmm - saw one of those in my conservatory yesterday. I wondered what it was. I'm off to check my roses....