brown trout pond

gazzabadshot · #1 (**permalink**) 28-06-2009, 10:58 AM

Hello,just came across ths site and looks very interesting,so i joined.while i roam around the forums looking, just wondering if any bodies put brown trout in their garden pond,alongside goldfish,tench,koi etc?
Gaz

seamusagleann · #2 (**permalink**) 28-06-2009, 12:23 PM

hi and welcome to wab!! can't say i've heard of it ,but don't see any reason why not, but i'm sure some one on here will know for definate!!

ron1863 · #3 (**permalink**) 28-06-2009, 12:59 PM

Hi Gaz and welcome to WAB.

Kayleigh · #4 (**permalink**) 28-06-2009, 04:59 PM

Hi and welcome, sorry I have no idea about brown trout in garden ponds.

gazzabadshot · #5 (**permalink**) 28-06-2009, 07:13 PM

no worries im sure something will come up ,thanks

ellen h · #6 (**permalink**) 28-06-2009, 10:02 PM

Hello and welcome,sorry cant help there but am sure someone will soon

ellen

Tursiops2 · #7 (**permalink**) 28-06-2009, 10:49 PM

Hi gazzabadshot and welcome to WAB.

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Originally Posted by gazzabadshot

no worries im sure something will come up ,thanks

try posting your question in the Waterlife forum, you might get a more helpful response there.
T2

Naturenutz · #8 (**permalink**) 28-06-2009, 11:17 PM

Hi,Brown trout are natural to rivers, they need plenty of oxygen and i dont think they would do well in stagnant water. Also they are predatary fish and will eat other fish of smaller sizes. If the pond had some flow i guess they may survive but then tench might not like that amount of flow.Koi are very happy in well oxygenated moving water .I havnt kept them though (trout)so cant give you much more knowledge.

welsh.lensman · #9 (**permalink**) 28-06-2009, 11:31 PM

Hi Gaz and welcome to WAB, sorry can't help with the brown trout, but I hope you enjoy it on this site.

treecreeper · #10 (**permalink**) 29-06-2009, 01:28 PM

Welcome to the site Gaz

. I suspect most Wabbers would favour no fish at all in your pond but no harm asking...and it's your pond!

sunnydale · #11 (**permalink**) 29-06-2009, 05:33 PM

Welcome from me too!

gazzabadshot · #12 (**permalink**) 30-06-2009, 10:56 PM

wayhay!!!!!!!!!! lots of welcomes,thanks lads and ladys .I will try the 'wet side' next thanx t2. treecreeper why no fish in ponds?

treecreeper · #13 (**permalink**) 30-06-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gazzabadshot

treecreeper why no fish in ponds?

Fish are predators of newt larvae with Great Crested Newt larvae particularly vulnerable. Fish also eat both frog and toad tadpoles. I presume fish are also a threat to aquatic insects but the entymologists will know more about this.

valleyforge · #14 (**permalink**) 01-07-2009, 12:42 PM

Hi there,

Brown trout do not do well in garden ponds ... their natural habital is in fast moving, clear streams or rivers (or lakes fed by same) where the water is both cold and oxygen rich.

Although it's possible to fit a a high-flowrate circulating pump to your pond to artificially increase the water's oxygen levels, it's always going to be difficult to recreate the ideal temperature gradients in any small pond, which can get uncomfortably hot in summer months even for fish, such as carp (koi or goldfish) that will tolerate still water conditions.

Besides, trout are naturally shy and wary fish ... in your pond they would be looking to hide undercover all the time. They are also predatory, and would quickly clear your pond of most life, including your other fish. Those which are not big enough to swallow would be bullied and harried.

They are not therefore good occupants of a garden pond, and particularly not so in one where you want to establish a 'community'.

gazzabadshot · #15 (**permalink**) 01-07-2009, 10:20 PM

hi,thanks more food for thought!!!

salukiwhippet · #16 (**permalink**) 01-07-2009, 11:23 PM

As said, brownies have a very high oxygen requirement, as temperature rises, the ability of water to carry dissolved 02 diminishes. Fatalities can occur in water temps of 18deg C, meaning very deep water (in a garden pond sense) is needed - 12ft minimum. Rainbows are hardier, but not by much. What about some rudd if you're after something native and different?

James

onemind · #17 (**permalink**) 02-07-2009, 01:26 PM

rainbow trout will be quite happy in garden pond mine is 24ft long 12ft wide and 4ft deep i have loi to 28inches and far to many roach for my likeing but my son put them in there from local pond

onemind · #18 (**permalink**) 02-07-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by salukiwhippet

As said, brownies have a very high oxygen requirement, as temperature rises, the ability of water to carry dissolved 02 diminishes. Fatalities can occur in water temps of 18deg C, meaning very deep water (in a garden pond sense) is needed - 12ft minimum. Rainbows are hardier, but not by much. What about some rudd if you're after something native and different?

James

he is on about pond not channel tunnel 12ft deep ????

Naturenutz · #19 (**permalink**) 02-07-2009, 05:47 PM

most lakes i know that stock trout are very deep,on hot summer days the fish stay in the deep water only venturing near the shallow water late evening or very early morning. The more i think about it the more i think they would be hard to keep but if you do,would love to hear how you get on.