Bonjour mes amis

[acherontia]

Or should I say - How'r't fettlin'? Only pulling your leg there - I tend to do that.

I stumbled across this forum when I put in a search for 'buckthorn Lancashire' as I need to find some for caterpillars.Looks like a friendly place!

Almost all of my spare time is devoted to wildlife photography - OH is the lucky one who's studying the degree in it but as his 'assistant' I get to enjoy it as well.
Here's a couple of my images -

Oops - there doesn't seem to be a link to do that?

Can anyone explain? I've lots of stuff here!

Acherontia

[Lancashire Lad]

Ey up, another Lancashire bod to the fore.

Welcome to WAB acherontia.

Have a good read at this thread for details of how to upload photos. It's not as bad as you might first think - but just follow the instructions carefully. Photo uploading seems to be the one thing that catches a few people out.

http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/fo...otos-info.html

Look forward to seeing your pics. & posts around the forums.

Regards
Mike.

[Tursiops2]

Hi Acherontia, welcome to the forum

Uploading photos here is a bit more complex than on most forums. Click on "Gallery" in the bar at the top of the page, then click on "upload photos" (top right) and you'll find the instructions.

HTH
T2

[acherontia]

Cheers m'dears!

This is bad news though -

You agree to grant us a worldwide, royalty free, irrevocable, non-exclusive license (including the right to sub-license) to use, publish, distribute, perform, display, reproduce, translate, modify, adapt, create derivative works from any content (in whole or in part) you upload, post or email and/or to incorporate such content in other works in any form, media or technology now known or developed in the future. In certain circumstance we may also share your contribution with trusted third parties*. Copyright in your contribution will remain with you and this permission is not exclusive, so you can continue to use the material in any way including allowing others to use it.

and worse still - I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hold up in a court of law unless a document had been drawn up and signed in person with witnesses. Therefore - you're putting yourselves in a vulnerable position.

There are very stringent laws about using or trying to take over other people's images.

I don't mind putting my images anywhere at all from an external source with no such 'contract' (!) like this as they would be protected but I really don't like the idea of this statement and the fact that I would have to hand them over to your Gallery first!
We both sell and know quite a lot about these things.

I'm not sure if you're doing yourself any favours here as you may be lowering the standards of your photographic contributors - and I don't mean to offend by this.


Eh bien - it started well - perhaps I can enjoy just having a chat instead?
I hope you don't mind me raising these issues? I was quite shocked when I read that 'agreement'!

Acherontia

[treecreeper]

Welcome to WAB, Acherontia

Sorry you're upset by the site rules. Have a plate of black pudding and tripe to calm yourself down. If that doesn't work put a ferret down your trousers

[Lancashire Lad]

Hi acherontia,

I acknowledge your concerns, but from my personal point of view the relevant section of the clause is: -

"Copyright in your contribution will remain with you and this permission is not exclusive, so you can continue to use the material in any way including allowing others to use it".

I don't particularly take photo's for gain, so the way I look at it, means that I only upload those photo's which I would be willing to let WAB have use of if they so wished. I still have copyright, and I can still use the pics or sell the pics elsewhere if the opportunity arises. (I've actually had a couple of enquiries brought about by people seeing my pics. on WAB).

Obviously, everyone is entitled to their own thoughts on the matter, and no-one will think any the worse if you choose never to upload a pic.

Regards
Mike.

[acherontia]

Ey up - that black puddin' were reet good. Nor sure about t'tripe though - even though my Great Granfather supplied all't Coops round here wi' it! Used to boil it up scrape it off in Bamber's yard behind't tripe n onion parlour in Preston... - it's true!!

The 'copyright whizz' (part of his course) is home and says that to give images away for free is betraying all those professional 'Wildies' that are struggling to make a living. A bit blackleggish so my electricians ex shop steward father would't approve either!! 'ecky thump/flippin 'erry what to do eh? I'm fair kerfuffled. And this dialect is wearing me out......

Acherontia

[Lancashire Lad]

Ah well - each to his/her own.

In truth though, as soon as you upload an image to the net it is liable to be ripped off - even if you have copyright or watermarks etc. all over it.

The chances of you finding out that your image had been stolen would be astronomically small so it's not something I lose any sleep about.

As for giving the images away free, well WAB is a registered charity, a non-profit organisation, so if they can make a few bob from any of my images to help with the site's running costs, they're welcome to it.

Best regards
Mike.

[mickmassie]

Is it possible to delete images ? If so, how ?

[acherontia]

As for giving the images away free, well WAB is a registered charity, a non-profit organisation, so if they can make a few bob from any of my images to help with the site's running costs, they're welcome to it.

This is even more worrying - nowhere on that 'agreement' does it say that WAB will use images for profit yet obviously they do!

As a point of law - if anyone found out that WAB was touting their image for profit WAB could be sued. It's not good enough that someone ticks a box to agree to the terms of the site. It has been proven in a court of law that this does not fulfil all that is required as far as use of another persons images is concerned.
I'm not telling you this to be awkward or contentious - I'm pointing out that there is a serious flaw in what WAB is trying to do here. Perhaps the organisers should examine the system in place?

Acherontia