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16-11-2011, 07:59 PM
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| | | Predator control A neighbour has today drawn my attention to the following interesting (but no doubt controversial?) recent article by Robin Page - a local farmer, countryman and founder of the Countryside Restoration Trust - Time to prey on predators - Telegraph
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16-11-2011, 08:39 PM
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| | | Re: Predator control I don't think mink are native so I don't see any problem in humanely removing them. With all the others I would think there were plenty of other things having an impact on wildlife. loss of habitat, chemicals,farming practice, cats, road kill ect ect.
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16-11-2011, 08:56 PM
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| | | Re: Predator control Is this the 'Songbird Survival group' old chestnut per chance? And/or gamekeepers wanting to protect their profitable non-native gamebirds from our non-profitable native fauna? | 
16-11-2011, 09:03 PM
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| | | Re: Predator control Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedgehoggy Is this the 'Songbird Survival group' old chestnut per chance? And/or gamekeepers wanting to protect their profitable non-native gamebirds from our non-profitable native fauna? | Sounds about right.. | 
16-11-2011, 09:13 PM
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| | | Re: Predator control Typical torygraph xexexexe , they are right that predators take prey (hardly an earth shaking revelation) but they really cherry pick the data to support what is essential a spurious argument - for example stone curlew are a real conservation success story , both on salisbury plane and elsewhere, and the main reason for the expanding population is the RSPBs work with farmers to provide suitable habitat - I've no particular problem with controlling foxes for nest protection , but predation by badgers is so trivial as to not even be an issue.
Likewise with the supoposed problem with pine martens at abernethy - if they are such a problem why is the birdlife there so much richer than in the surrounding estates?
Mink are a problem at wicken fen (as they are everywhere else) but the article implies that the mink are protected by the National Trust, which is ridiculous - many Trust sites are engaged in active mink control ( I wouldnt like to comment on whether wicken are or not as i dont actually know)
and so on - as usual the telegraph arent letting the facts stand in the way of a good story
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22-11-2011, 10:46 PM
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| | | Re: Predator control I wonder how many acres are in Mr Page's backside ?
Because that is where he is talking from.
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25-11-2011, 11:44 AM
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| | | Re: Predator control Ah mr page, the same man who said sparrowhawks are killing all our song birds, that just shows how well informed he is does it not. | 
30-11-2011, 10:24 PM
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| | | Re: Predator control Moorhens are regularly shot on shoots around here and with three gamekeepers in my family spanning over a hundred years, I can't ever remember stone curlews being protected by them.
My idea: we lack an impartial top predator, like the wolf. Man, in his pompous vanity will never suceed in taking the place of lupu lupus. Nor will he ever match natures wisdom. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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