Police Dogs

[GTH]

Originally Posted by poohbear

If he doesn't resign or get chucked out he will be back in his job lecturing us on how to behave responsibly.
If guilty of this I'm not particularly bothered how he feels about it....it was an inexcusable act of stupidity not befitting the job.

I cannot agree more.

It cannot again be one law for them and one for us ?

If it was a member of the pulblic, then by now they would be arrested on suspicion of animal cruelty or neglect,.....and as a generalisation, "mistakes" by the police go unpunished (and there have been many, including fatal)...while "there`s no such thing as a mistake" by a member of the public.....I wonder why ? We are constantly told that ignorance is not an excuse !!!

Time for a change.....and especially where innocent animals are concerned !!

That`s me off of my soap box !!

[larachmor]

Before this thread runs any further - let's just pause and take breath.
First of all, nobody in the public at large yet knows the facts, as the matter is still under investigation. That somebody HAS slipped up there seems no doubt - but please save this level of hatred until wilful neglect has been established.
And if the facts are such that a prosecution is merited, then fine. But if a prosecution is not deemed warranted, then that decision will have been that of the Crown Prosecution Service - not the police!

[poohbear]

Airplane crashes can take days,weeks, even months to investigate.Two dead dogs in an overheated vehicle outside police headquarters shouldn't take more than a couple of hours to apportion blame...why the delay?? As for not knowing the facts...a human being locked two dogs in a vehicle...the person with the vehicle keys is guilty of the offence...period.

There is no level of hatred...I just want to know what the hell the guy was thinking making such a horrendous mistake.I'm not interested in a prosecution...a fine doesn't bring the dogs back...neither would an apology...the man should be banned from working with animals....ever.

[Squirrelx]

What puzzles me is what he was doing with two dogs as I was always under the impression it was a one-to-one situation i.e. one handler, one dog.

[earthdragon64]

Originally Posted by poohbear

Airplane crashes can take days,weeks, even months to investigate.Two dead dogs in an overheated vehicle outside police headquarters shouldn't take more than a couple of hours to apportion blame...why the delay?? As for not knowing the facts...a human being locked two dogs in a vehicle...the person with the vehicle keys is guilty of the offence...period.

There is no level of hatred...I just want to know what the hell the guy was thinking making such a horrendous mistake.I'm not interested in a prosecution...a fine doesn't bring the dogs back...neither would an apology...the man should be banned from working with animals....ever.

Firstly, it's the RSPCA doing the investigation, not the Police, presumably to counter those people who wouldn't believe that the police could investigate the matter fairly. Perhaps any concern regarding any perceived delay should be directed at them.

Secondly, how do you know exactly what investigating is being done or not? Just because the media aren't spoon-feeding us with a blow by blow account of the investigation, doesn't mean nothing has happened.

[poohbear]

I'll say no more...I've made my point.I can't see why a criminal act has been passed to the RSPCA except of course for political reasons.If it's been done to establish that an investigation will be fair...then it says a lot for the publics trust in our once superb and respected police force.

I for one will leave the subject at that.

[larachmor]

Originally Posted by Squirrelx

What puzzles me is what he was doing with two dogs as I was always under the impression it was a one-to-one situation i.e. one handler, one dog.

Many police dog handlers will operate routinely with two dogs - it is not uncommon: One general purpose dog alongside a specialist (a drugs or explosives dog for instance)

[Squirrelx]

Originally Posted by larachmor

Many police dog handlers will operate routinely with two dogs - it is not uncommon: One general purpose dog alongside a specialist (a drugs or explosives dog for instance)

Many thanks for the clarification. As I said, it had been puzzling me.

[lincs lass]

All I know is that I read (in 2 papers) was that he was not on duty, had gone to where he worked and left the dogs in the car. He is on 'compassionate' leave at present. The RSPCA are supposed to be doing a post mortem on the dogs.

As far as I am concerned he should get a prison sentence and the full fine of £20,000, be banned from keeping any animal for the rest of his life and should be named and shamed!! And my own punishment for him would be for him to sit in a hot car wearing a fur coat and hat.....so he got some idea of how those poor dogs suffered.

Also I have seen enough people the last few days out walking their dogs mid afternoon when it has been really hot, I even followed a car for a while up the A52 and there was a dog in a cage in the boot with the sun shining onto the back window, I assume the owners were on their way to Skegness. The dog did not look happy......I had my dog in the car on Saturday (he came to work with me). He was in his crate in the car (not the boot) and I always carry water for him, I had a fan on the crate and the sun roof open and my window and although it was a 20 min journey home at 1.20pm it was still too hot. He gets walked about 9.30pm in hot weather and before 8am, then the rest of the time he's in his run. Then when I get home out comes the hose and pool for him to play in. I would never, ever leave him unattended in a car on a hot day so it's beyond belief that a so called experienced dog handler would do this.

[Ciderpuss]

Just heard on the BBC news that the policeman responsible for the 2 police dogs that died has been suspended from duty & will face proscecution.