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Old 24-07-2009, 10:17 AM
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it is the basic presumption in this country that ANY person is innocent until proven guilty..
I can speak from experience when I say that not in all cases is it "innocent until proven guilty". We had an incident the other night when one of our guests knocked one of our panic alarms. The two officers who turned up "presumed" hubby and I to be telling them fibs, the presumed we were not who we said we were...dont know why, we were in our PJs, nothing on our feet, so why were they so rude and disbelieving. They treated us as if we were the baddies. They had attitude, were rude and arrogant. That is FACT.

I guess from your way of writing that you, larachmor, are either a serving policeman or an ex-policeman.

I don't care whether the person who left the dogs in the car was a policeman, policewoman, the old geezer down the street or the queen. The person did wrong and two dogs suffered before they died therefore deserving punishment.
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Not even when they've shot an innocent man or killed peaceful demonstrators? The 'could' in your last sentence - bad coppers could be punished .... but they seldom are ....

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Which is something I wish more people would remember, not just in relation to this case, or Police Officers, but in general.

What a lot of people also don't realise, is that regardless of the outcome of any legal proceedings, the police officer is also subject to the Police Disciplinary Code. Even if found to be innocent under normal law, he could still be found guilty of an offence under that code which ultimately could lead to him being sacked, not just "allowed to retire with a nice pension".
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Not even when they've shot an innocent man or killed peaceful demonstrators? The 'could' in your last sentence - bad coppers could be punished .... but they seldom are ....
Do you have any figures to back up this statement?
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I don't care whether the person who left the dogs in the car was a policeman, policewoman, the old geezer down the street or the queen. The person did wrong and two dogs suffered before they died therefore deserving punishment.
And I totally agree with you, if he is found to be guilty after the case has been heard in a court.
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I have no doubt the Policeman involved is full remorse but it will happen again not only with animals but also with children.
Could some enterprising company come up with a gadget that would detect movement in the car and if the temperature in the vehicle was high it would trigger an alarm to warn of the dangers possibly even having a display on the rear window etc

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Old 27-07-2009, 01:48 PM
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Could be an idea but alarms are ignored these days. Have you gone running out when you heard a car alarm go off even if it isn't yours? people wont care
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Re: Police Dogs

What amazes me is that the bloke parked his car in the sun...I've been walking dogs within a few hundred yards of where they died for many years.The police headquarters are set in many acres of mature woodland.There must have been plenty of places he could have left his car under the shade of the trees.The dog pens themselves are deep into the wood.The car parks are exposed in places but there are many areas where a car with dogs could have been left safely in the shade.

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What amazes me is that the bloke parked his car in the sun...I've been walking dogs within a few hundred yards of where they died for many years.The police headquarters are set in many acres of mature woodland.There must have been plenty of places he could have left his car under the shade of the trees.The dog pens themselves are deep into the wood.The car parks are exposed in places but there are many areas where a car with dogs could have been left safely in the shade.

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Cars still get very hot in the shade too.
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Cars still get very hot in the shade too.
we both know those dogs would be alive now if the car was in the shade....panting maybe ...but not boiled alive.
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we both know those dogs would be alive now if the car was in the shade....panting maybe ...but not boiled alive.
Mmmmm, I don't know about that.
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