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Old 02-07-2009, 02:19 PM
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I doubt he will be "thrown out of the force" earthdragon64. Far too often nowadays are the police, government and other official bodies found failing in their duty and nothing, absolutely nothing is done about it...in fact, most opt to resign and take a very nice pension with them, thanks to the taxpaying public. It sickens me to my heart that our so called "betters" are never prosecuted. Grrr. The debate that's going on re Mr Biggs for instance...he SHOULD be released, we all know how much it costs to keep a prisoner in prison, just think about how much additional money is being spent on him with his two guards day and night at his hospital bed...economics should come into it but Mr Straw's pride and political stance is more important....I shall stop now as I feel my blood pressure rising and I might just type some words that are banned!
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Surely if it was down to equipment failure then no blame can be pointed at the Police Officer in question.
Dogs shouldn't be left in cars (with air conditioning on) for this very reason because equipment does fail, especially in this heat.
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Old 02-07-2009, 03:09 PM
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IMO there is absolutely no excuse for this, as soon as there is any sort of heatwae it's banged into us with the slogan DOGS DIE IN HOT CARS, it's not something new, it's a fact of every hot day, and whether you are police or Joe Public the message ought to have got through by now.
Anyone old enough to drive a car and have ownership of a dog should be held responsible. The vet called to the dogs gave agraphic description of what happens to the dogs and said they would have died in great distress, It makes my blood boil, but made me weep for these dogs. I've owned and trained three GSD's and know the bond that is created, but, though small consolation, the handler will suffer by his own consciense.
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Absolutely this person will suffer mentally for what they have done. I don't think you can be a dog handler without a love for the animals.

But I think it is important to note that although pretty much everyone knows that dogs die in hot cars but not many know that this can happen in less than 5 minutes. I certainly didn't know this until this story broke.
This person is human and we all make stupid stupid mistakes sometimes and are just lucky that the very worst doesn't. Sometimes the very worst does happen.

It wouldn't suprise me if this person doesn't ever want to be a dog handler again.
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..... The debate that's going on re Mr Biggs for instance...he SHOULD be released, .......economics should come into it but Mr Straw's pride and political stance is more important....
Mr Biggs clubbed an innocent man down and this man never fully recovered from the injuries inflicted by Biggs, he ruined the rest of the mans' life. Biggs deserves what he gets.
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The flippin' police think they are above the law and that they own the place nowadays - I for one, have no time for them.

Sorry to have to say that but I've had little respect for the police ever since I came home from work one night last year to find a cop car parked in my driveway - blocking my access to my car port - whilst the idiot was down the road doing speed checks (hiding the car from passing motorists in my driveway because there is a dense hedge there)! No apology or anything when I confronted him - I had to phone and make a complaint in order to get an apology! (sorry gone off topic - just had to explain why I don't generally like police).

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Old 02-07-2009, 05:57 PM
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Earth Dragon is correct. The investigation will be concluded and if handler was negligent then he will be disciplined appropriately. Even policemen make mistakes for heavens sake.
As for Biggs, he has never had any remorse and has openly admitted it, he was a career criminal and that is why he should remain in prison. IMO
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The flippin' police think they are above the law and that they own the place nowadays - I for one, have no time for them.

Sorry to have to say that but I've had little respect for the police ever since I came home from work one night last year to find a cop car parked in my driveway - blocking my access to my car port - whilst the idiot was down the road doing speed checks (hiding the car from passing motorists in my driveway because there is a dense hedge there)! No apology or anything when I confronted him - I had to phone and make a complaint in order to get an apology! (sorry gone off topic - just had to explain why I don't generally like police).
That is unacceptable behaviour, but unfortunately typical of how the revenue from speeding seems to have become more important than responsible community policing.

However, I've very little respect for a fair few of the general public, the ones who think that laws should be upheld unless of course, they are the ones caught breaking them.
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Mr Biggs clubbed an innocent man down and this man never fully recovered from the injuries inflicted by Biggs, he ruined the rest of the mans' life. Biggs deserves what he gets.
It was never established who clubbed Jack Mills and Mr Biggs played a minor part in the robbery (allegedly).

My point was not in defence of Mr Biggs, (believe me, I despise the criminal fraternity, I worked bloomin hard all my life and have paid thousands to keep those in prison via my taxes!) but this country is in a mess, with a capital M, we have people being knived on the streets, shot on the streets, women being raped and battered and old people being battered in their homes. Releasing Mr Biggs would free up ONE cell for one of the above criminals and two prison guards who are with him 24/7...he is now in his own prison, his useless body...I know he came back to use the NHS when he was ill, he has served one third of his prison sentence and I believe if the prison sentences now were still as harse as they were then, perhaps we wouldnt have so many murderers, rapists, and robbers on the streets. As I said, its economical to release him. Sorry gone of subject.

You just don't leave animals or children in cars, whether the weather be hot or cold!
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