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11-03-2009, 10:07 PM
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| | | Re: Slightly morbid quiz - name that skull
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Originally Posted by ron1863  Bat for me too but for all I know about Bats, it could be a cricket bat.  | No, can't be a cricket bat - no sponsor's name!
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11-03-2009, 10:16 PM
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I reckon bat is close enough, from the dental formula I'm reasonably sure that it's a pipistrelle but I don't know if anyone could say for certain from those pictures.
The horseshoe bats have a distinctive dome on the snout above the nostrils so i don't think it's one of them and I don't think the dental formula fits for Natterer's but I can't find the right book so may be wrong.
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11-03-2009, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ron1863 Bat for me too but for all I know about Bats, it could be a cricket bat. | Quote:
Originally Posted by thunder No, can't be a cricket bat - no sponsor's name!
henrya | Very good 
Oh, nearly forgot, this is for Dave P. 
A vole, with pointy canines? tut tut! 
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11-03-2009, 10:34 PM
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Myotis species (apart from M.myotis) have the dental formula 2.1.3.3. over 3.1.3.3 giving 38 teeth.
Nattereres upper premolars are very small. The lower incisors are wide and overlap.
Also, the zygomatic arch is S shaped, as is the calcar which is a good way of remembering the features.
The Natterers palate, when viewed from below, shows the canines sticking out sideways more than Pips and has a deeper cleft between either side.
Pip dentition is 2.1..2.3. over 3.1.2.3 giving 34 in all. The zygomatic arch is thin and weak and the lower incisors do not overlap as much.
Pip skull length is under 14 mm whilst Natterers is 15 to 16 mm.
Hope this helps.
Last edited by The Woodman; 11-03-2009 at 11:03 PM.
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11-03-2009, 10:36 PM
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Thanks Steve, I needed that!
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11-03-2009, 11:14 PM
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Well done to Lance for first suggesting Bat
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12-03-2009, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerel The horseshoe bats have a distinctive dome on the snout above the nostrils so i don't think it's one of them
Steve | Well, I thought I could see signs of that - but I'm certainly not sure!
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12-03-2009, 01:23 AM
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Thanks for the info Woodman, I'll recheck it and try to post a definitive answer.
OK next one.
I think this is quite a tricky one personally.
Length - 64mm  
Steve
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12-03-2009, 08:47 AM
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Yes, looks very much like Carrion Crow but just to be different I'll try Raven. | | | |
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