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05-01-2008, 09:54 PM
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| | | Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id Pic taken at Salcey Forest on 1st January. The unknown is the small spiny object at left of centre. I'm pretty sure it's something quite different to the Hedgehog slug in my earlier posting.
Help with identification appreciated.
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05-01-2008, 10:51 PM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id Please note: the orange fungus is NOT the unidentified object - Bruce  | 
05-01-2008, 11:04 PM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id Might be a plant seed? | 
05-01-2008, 11:47 PM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id Its the seed of something like goosegrass ( cleavers ) or any of those plants that rely on animal fur/feet /human dispersal...
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06-01-2008, 08:25 AM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id I'd go with a goosegrass seed too.
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06-01-2008, 10:11 AM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id Thanks for the suggestions guys.
I've Googled goosegrass and certainly can see the close resemblance. The arrangement of slightly hooked spines would absolutely fit the "seed dispersal" theory.
What initially surprised me (until I gave it some thought) was the fact that I found it on 1st January - but then I realised that plant seed have to somehow make it through the winter to whatever point in the year it germinates and grows.
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06-01-2008, 01:55 PM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id I go with goosegrass my dog come home covered in these. | 
07-01-2008, 09:16 AM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id Hi, I am new here .. my first post ..
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07-01-2008, 03:26 PM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id Yes i believe so...or a seed very similar.
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07-01-2008, 03:34 PM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id Could you give us an idea of the size - in comparison to the moss it looks rather small for a big plant seed .... ? | 
07-01-2008, 04:03 PM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id Thank you all for your input  .
Paul - I would estimate the "seed" to have a diameter of ~2-3mm. Maybe this full frame image might give you a better idea of it's size relative to the moss:
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08-01-2008, 06:54 AM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id Goosegrass is a member of the bedstraws (Gallium). Ladys bedstraw and Hedge both have smooth fruits but cleavers (a favourite food of Geese) the fruit has hooked spines just like the one in the pic and being that its only a few mm i'm most certain it's what we're looking at!
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08-01-2008, 12:00 PM
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| | | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id I said it first ! 
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08-01-2008, 04:17 PM
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| | Re: Animal, vegetable or....? Can you help with id ...and I had not forgotten or overlooked that fact Dan. The mistake was mine in not Googling on cleavers when you mentioned the name in your initial posting.
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