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19-11-2007, 08:10 PM
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| |  Floodlight threat in Warwickshire village
I live in a small rural village outside Warwick, called Claverdon.
We are lucky in having no street lights....very rare i believe!
This is excellent for local wildlife, especially nocturnal animals together with amateur astromoners or just star gazers. However, there are plans afoot for the local tennis court to erect 6.7meter tall floodlights. Please help us in our campaign to stop this!
....light pollution is a major concern....
....Its not very 'green' is it!
....the area is a conservation area....
....the tennis courts are grossly underused in the daytime anyway........
....owls and bats may be disturbed..... I would love to know more about how exactly they will be affected!
....the lighting posts themselves will be an eyesore for anyone visiting the village and will inflict upon the natural scenery....
To me this is highly alarming so any advice/ help would be extremely helpful in our campaign..... |
19-11-2007, 09:10 PM
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| | | Re: Floodlight threat in Warwickshire village
There is a possibility it could be positive for bat's as the lights will attract insects for them to hunt over the court's. As for owl's i wouldnt see it causing much problem to them. I understand why you wouldnt want these lights though. Would they be on all night? |
19-11-2007, 11:05 PM
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| | | Re: Floodlight threat in Warwickshire village
Curious response....
Iv been scanning the web tonight for literature and have yet to find anything solid that would support what you're saying! Indeed most of the literature highly supports my thoughts that artificial lighting will be detrimental to the overall health of bats and owls! |
20-11-2007, 01:37 AM
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| | | Re: Floodlight threat in Warwickshire village
I think England grows or emits more lighting needlessly by around 10% a year. All kept going by power stations. Too me thats a growing waste of power. I have slept in a few sleepy villages wondering why at 2am the lights are still on whilst every ones in the land of nod  I can hark back to lights out at 12 when times where more quiet peaceful and less violent. I wish we could return back to those days. But i think i'm alone sadly to returning to Darkness returning to neighbours and community but we have support officers now so alls well 
By the way did you watch Nature Of Btitain? The street lights have the Robins bless them up singing at midnight. *Scratches head in bewilderment*
Everything seems to be going up one i wish would come down!!!
As you can tell i'm a happy bunny 
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20-11-2007, 04:36 AM
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| | | Re: Floodlight threat in Warwickshire village
Hi,
I think street lights are on later at night now to make the areas feel safer, yes we have "community Police" but I think they go home at 6-00pm, but not to worry, we also have the plastic yellow signs saying "Police patrol this area" , if they did you'd see them and wouldn't need the signs to tell you.
The tennis court lights I doubt would be on after 11-00pm, and if any animal was disturbed by them they'd only move out of the light a bit.
Max.
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20-11-2007, 06:05 AM
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| | | Re: Floodlight threat in Warwickshire village
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Originally Posted by m1.carson  Hi,
I think street lights are on later at night now to make the areas feel safer, yes we have "community Police" but I think they go home at 6-00pm, but not to worry, we also have the plastic yellow signs saying "Police patrol this area" , if they did you'd see them and wouldn't need the signs to tell you.
The tennis court lights I doubt would be on after 11-00pm, and if any animal was disturbed by them they'd only move out of the light a bit.
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20-11-2007, 09:17 AM
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| | | Re: Floodlight threat in Warwickshire village
I was reading a different thread a few days ago where someone mentioned the 'Good old days' when lights would go out at night and night crimes were a lot less. I think that streetlights and house outside lights do help those so inclined to take from others. I have lived in a city and extremely rural and in my experience the crime rate soars the more lights are around. Must make their job a lot easier if they can see what they are doing. In rural villages no one is out beyond about 11 pm. other than those going somewhere, or coming home, in their car. There is nothing else to do. So for a village to have street lights all night long is ridiculous. Unless of course it is a large village with a place of employment that has staff coming and going all night.
If these floodlights are going to burn when not in use then that is a waste of energy resource and something should definitely be done about it. I would hate to be subjected to floodlights at night. I like to look at the stars, any kind of light nearby makes that very difficult.
Hope you can find a way to stop the light pollution.  |
20-11-2007, 09:28 AM
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| | | Re: Floodlight threat in Warwickshire village
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Originally Posted by Laura J Curious response....
Iv been scanning the web tonight for literature and have yet to find anything solid that would support what you're saying! Indeed most of the literature highly supports my thoughts that artificial lighting will be detrimental to the overall health of bats and owls! | http://www.cababstractsplus.org/goog...No=20053190425
An australian study on bats and light. Show its positive's.
It can be negative to slower flying species on a bigger scale than a tennis court.
Although it is well know that putting lighting on a building that is used as a roost can cause damage to bat population's. Unless it was on a bigger scale than a tennis court i carnt see it affecting local bats, And chance's are most owl's wouldnt hunt on a court and be affected.
However as i said from a light pollution, and negative impact on the local community, the waste of energy they use up i totally agree with you, and think they are pretty needless.
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20-11-2007, 09:45 AM
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| | | Re: Floodlight threat in Warwickshire village
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Originally Posted by Buzzy I have lived in a city and extremely rural and in my experience the crime rate soars the more lights are around. | there are obviously more lights in cities and a higher crime rate, but I don't think you can conclude from this that the one causes the other. 
Are they proposing to leave the floodlights on permanently? This strikes me as unlikely, especially if the court is owned by a club.
Matt
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20-11-2007, 09:57 AM
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| | | Re: Floodlight threat in Warwickshire village
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Originally Posted by Laura J Curious response....
Iv been scanning the web tonight for literature and have yet to find anything solid that would support what you're saying! Indeed most of the literature highly supports my thoughts that artificial lighting will be detrimental to the overall health of bats and owls! | Noctules have been reported actively hunting around floodlights, whilst one or two others hunt around the periphery of the lit area.
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