Unidentified fungi - Braemar woodland - Aberdeenshire

[mollisia]

Hello,

Originally Posted by waxcap

Bravo! Mal.

Not wanting to stir thing up any more - and my question arises from true ignorance but:- Shouldn't Russula only be italicised when used in a name i.e. Russula emetica and not when used as a noun in a sentence?

And another thing - when you quote another post it's all italicised anyway.

italizing names is nothing that is subject to a law or the botanical code or whatever. You can do that or not, no one will care. The only thing where it matters is in publications. There you will have to follow the "guidelines for authors", which may be different from journal to journal. There it is indicated, what shall be italized, what shall be bold etc.etc. Usually names from genus downwards are italized, names from families upwards are not. But there are also journals where you shall italize also the families and subfamilies, sections etc. Some want all authors names to be in capitals, some only in literature citatons, some don't do that at all.
But that a name shall be italized in a binominal, but not when used as genus name alone, I have never heared of. Especially as you can imagine yourself a "sp." or "spec." behind "Russula" - and then you have a binominal again ...

best regards,
Andreas

[Cantabrigian]

Originally Posted by waxcap

sp. is short for species. If you know the genus but not the species you put sp. after the genus. Russula is the genus. There are something like 750 species of Russula worldwide and something like 160 in Europe....

... Russulas can be quite hard to identify just by sight.

Dave

Thanks Dave for all that info - all quite clear the first time, though some of the further information was interesting too!

Best wishes,

John

[diggleken]

Hells bells, semantics and semiotics on WAB, what next?
Why italicise though?
Simplicity rules - providing its accurate english and biologically right should reign in my view, but taking Andreas' points into account I guess.
Cheers
Ken

[fairplay]

Originally Posted by diggleken

Hells bells, semantics and semiotics on WAB, what next?
Why italicise though?
Simplicity rules - providing its accurate english and biologically right should reign in my view, but taking Andreas' points into account I guess.
Cheers
Ken

But fungi, as with most other natural organisms, knows no boundary's - they are international.
The British cannot have it all their own way, and our scientists (that's not me !) have accepted the Linnaeus System which most of the civilised world also (and have to) use.

Neil.

[diggleken]

Originally Posted by fairplay

But fungi, as with most other natural organisms, knows no boundary's - they are international.
The British cannot have it all their own way, and our scientists (that's not me !) have accepted the Linnaeus System which most of the civilised world also (and have to) use.

Neil.

Agreed Neil, perhaps (probably) I wasnt clear - I was trying to drive at simplicity within those rules - without, as Andreas says, italics etc depending on the publishers whims etc etc - and of course this Linnaean nomenclature stuff applies to all.......
Cheers
Ken

[waxcap]

Thanks for that Andreas. That makes sense.

[fairplay]

Originally Posted by diggleken

Agreed Neil, perhaps (probably) I wasnt clear - I was trying to drive at simplicity within those rules - without, as Andreas says, italics etc depending on the publishers whims etc etc - and of course this Linnaean nomenclature stuff applies to all.......
Cheers
Ken

Considering the amount of new members joining the WAB Fungi Forum it makes sense to relax the Linnaeus rules a little and it will do no harm to use errr um ... (is this called Roman ?) instead of Italics now and again.

Neil.

[waxcap]

Originally Posted by fairplay

Considering the amount of new members joining the WAB Fungi Forum it makes sense to relax the Linnaeus rules a little and it will do no harm to use errr um ... (is this called Roman ?) instead of Italics now and again.

Neil.

Yes we don't need the Old Grammar and Italicisation Technocrats jumping on us at every oppurtunity.

[alindsay]

Originally Posted by Chris Yeates

it's a Russula . . . . I don't care what you do with it

Chris

Ha Ha Ha Ha

You really don't like them do you?

Regards Alison