Lepiota species possibly

[Wood Wanderer]

From my back catalogue of "not yet identified".

I have tentatively gone for Lepiota aspera (acutesquamosa) but having viewed a number of images both on WAB and elsewhere I am far from convinced.

Anyone care to point me in the right direction .....



Thanks for your indulgence of a mere beginner !!

[fairplay]

Did you take a look underneath ?
If you did you would have almost certainly had seen TUBES.
I think this is a Bolete species, but without seeing the stem features I don't think anyone would dare hazard a guess as to which - shame as it's a great photo.

L.aspera has a cap covered in raised warts/squamules/scales that are proud of the cap surface.

Neil

[Wood Wanderer]

Originally Posted by fairplay

Did you take a look underneath ?
If you did you would have almost certainly had seen TUBES.
I think this is a Bolete species, but without seeing the stem features I don't think anyone would dare hazard a guess as to which - shame as it's a great photo.

L.aspera has a cap covered in raised warts/squamules/scales that are proud of the cap surface.

Neil

Those raised scales are precisely why I was worried about my ID, hadn't considered a bolete but have no other photos showing the stem / pores if there were any to be seen ....

Thanks for your input, looks like another one to look out for again later this year, I now know you need far more detail to ascertain an ID

[fairplay]

I'm playing too safe really, and think I can risk saying this is probably Boletus porosporus - there are others with a cracked surface but only one with this colour. (Unless Mal says different )

Neil.

[Wood Wanderer]

Just been having another look at the original photo and on close inspection I am sure I can see "teeth" around the edge of the cap ?? so maybe not a bolete

[fairplay]

Yes, I spotting this too so blew the photo up to full size. But I believe this is how tubes would have looked when slightly distorted at the extreme edge.

They also seem to be yellow which also fits. The worry is that there are also gilled fungi with this type of cracked surface too, but I'm staying with a Boletus species.

Neil.

[mollisia]

Hello,

I fully agree to Neils opinion, that this is a bolet. And also that it belongs in the group of Boletus chrysenteron, which is today by many (even some british ) accepted as a genus of its own: Xercomellus.
The only thing I would through in against X. porosporus is the small wound on the cap of the right fruitbody, which is discoloured reddish. That would be more typical for X. chrysenteron ss. str. then for X. porosporus.

best regards,
Andreas

[Wood Wanderer]

Thanks Neil and Andreas

Have now viewed many images of X. porosporus including several on WAB and concede you are both correct, silly of me to doubt your earlier reply Neil !!



even found the above image on WAB that Andreas identified as X. porosporus several years ago, so Sepia Bolete it is ......

Thanks again for the help, I must learn to look beyond the obvious .... and even check for pores over gills !!!

[fairplay]

Originally Posted by Wood Wanderer

Thanks Neil and Andreas

Have now viewed many images of X. porosporus including several on WAB and concede you are both correct, silly of me to doubt your earlier reply Neil !!



even found the above image on WAB that Andreas identified as X. porosporus several years ago, so Sepia Bolete it is ......

Thanks again for the help, I must learn to look beyond the obvious .... and even check for pores over gills !!!

I read it differently. I believe what Andreas is saying is that the fungus comes under the general group of Xerocomas chrycenteron which includes porosporus, rubellus, ripariellus, pruinatus, engelii, cisalpinus, bubelinus and armeniacus. (plus a few more that have not been found in Britain yet)
These have all now been placed within the new genus of Xerocomellus

Because of a teensy weensy patch on the cap showing some redness, Andreas feels this should be Xerocomellus chrycenteron and not X.porosporus and with somebody trying to break my arm behind my back, I reluctantly have to agree with Andreas.

So Sepia Bolete it is NOT, but boring old Red Cracked Bolete it IS. (Couldn't you find a bit of Polyfiller to cover that red patch with - then it would easily pass for X.porosporus )

Confused ?

Neil.

[Wood Wanderer]

Thanks for the added confusion ..... and I thought it was all settled, oh the joys of fungi ID !!!

Interestingly Red Cracking Bolete is quite common in this area and I have never seen it with this light cap colour it is always darker and cracked / torn to fully reveal the red colour beneath.

Still I have learnt a few more Genus along the way

John