Loreleia postii /arrhenia ?

[diggleken]

Hi all,
yet another in the same place as the unknown Navel etc from late last year - this one was associated with Moss, and I fancifully thought Arrhenia, maybe Omphalina, but doesnt seem right, so maybe a Mycena spp?
Grateful for any help/advice/steer!
On high level rock @ 800ft, gritstone, with Moss (which I havent nailed yet), seemingly parasitising as its directly with it.
The middle picture is reasonable with detail, cap size 1cm max, twisted stem concolourous and a strange slimey veilish feature, cap slightly granular but also slimy.

Yorkshire Chris and I have a specimen..............
Cheers
Ken

[Chris Yeates]

Originally Posted by diggleken

Hi all,
yet another in the same place as the unknown Navel etc from late last year - this one was associated with Moss, and I fancifully thought Arrhenia, maybe Omphalina, but doesnt seem right, so maybe a Mycena spp?
Grateful for any help/advice/steer!
On high level rock @ 800ft, gritstone, with Moss (which I havent nailed yet), seemingly parasitising as its directly with it.
The middle picture is reasonable with detail, cap size 1cm max, twisted stem concolourous and a strange slimey veilish feature, cap slightly granular but also slimy.

Yorkshire Chris and I have a specimen..............
Cheers
Ken

why not a Galerina Ken? another genus associated with mosses; if you've done a spore print and ruled Galerina out I apologise . . .

Chris

[stickman]

Considering the time of year and all that sliminess going on perhaps Phaeogalera is in with a chance....

Cheers,
Nick

[mollisia]

Hello,

I totally agree with Chris. The laid down fruitbody seems to show fibrils of veil at the stipe apex, the gills edge seem to be slightly serrulate (= cystidia) and the overall habit is against an Arrhenia/Omphalina.
Looks very much like a (frozen) Galerina.

best regards,
Andreas

[diggleken]

Errrmmmm,
sorry to introduce this, another lesson learnt - I jumped too fast - cap colour and striateish, hygrophanous, white gill edges etc and as Andreas brings a touch of sense too, was frozen - leads to Galerina, maybe paludosa from macro features, but better sphagnorum I think from the overall colour and stem appearance.
Thanks a lot everyone.
Cheers
Ken

[mollisia]

Hello Ken,

neither nor .... Both species you mentioned are restricted to Sphagnum moss, which your moss isn't for sure. I think you have Pleurozium schreberi there, but as I'm a moss ignorant, I wouldn't bet on it

best regards,
Andreas

[diggleken]

Originally Posted by mollisia

Hello Ken,

neither nor .... Both species you mentioned are restricted to Sphagnum moss, which your moss isn't for sure. I think you have Pleurozium schreberi there, but as I'm a moss ignorant, I wouldn't bet on it

best regards,
Andreas

Thanks a lot Andreas, I'll keep looking at other Galerina with mosses.
You are quite right, its not a sphagnale and the red stems are a giveaway for Pleurozium schreberi you'll be pleased to hear! So not moss ignorant either.
Cheers
Ken
later - back to the fruitbody - is Galerina vittiformis a candidate with the dark based stem maybe?

[mollisia]

Hello Ken,

I'm afraid, but I wouldn't think of G. vittiformis. This is the only non-sphagnophilous species of Galerina with a pruinose stem. All others have a +/- fibrilous stem covering. This pruinose stem together with a mycenoid appearance (long stipe, campanulate cap) makes it a real problem to separate it macroscopically from a Conocybe species if one is not experienced. Your Galerina (if it is one) is too stout for vittiformis and has no pruinose stipe.

But now my macroscopical ideas end, I fear, and whichever species you will now suggest - I cannot find arguments against it ...

best regards,
Andreas

[diggleken]

Thanks Andreas, understood, but thanks for your help anyway.
Cheers
Ken

[diggleken]

Dont laugh too loud.....................this is a spore shot from the fungus in question - any further help out there?
Sorry, I know its bobbins and low mag, I'm working on it!
Any advice gratefully received.
Cheers
Ken