Tawny Grisette - Amanita fulva...wrong I.D

[dickie'sbird]

Hello everyone



Well, I'm appearing useless as to identifying this little 'darling'. I thought (doh!!..dangerous thing for me to do) I'd got it right this time. This is my second 'wrong' posting of this one...and corrected by Ken(thanks for the help Ken), how embarrassing is that!
Ken thought it was Psathyrella but to check on the forum. So, as directed by Ken, I'm putting this on the forum and open to suggestions...regarding the fungus, and not me needing a better pair of glasses

Thank you all ...once X squillions again....oh deary me

Jean

[Chris Yeates]

OK - these are general comments and are not to be taken personally, Jean - see I even got your name right

• Amanita fulva is in Amanita section Vaginatae (sometimes in the past treated as a separate genus - Amanitopsis)
  
• that section is partially defined as not having a partial veil - your fungus has clear fibrous veil remnants around the cap margin, with corresponding ones on the stipe . . . .
  
• those sort of fibrous remnants do not look right for Amanita in any case . . .
  
• Amanita fulva does of course have a universal veil which should show itself clearly as a basal volva - no evidence of a volva here . . .
  
• the only thing which might make you think fulva here is cap colour and stem colour - but that just isn't enough to base even a tentative guess on really - for example I would always expect fulva to show a distinctive plicate margin - the thin cap showing the pattern of the underlying gills
  
• again this a general point: if beginners want to progress at mycology (which is not an easy area of study - stick to birds and flowers if you want a simple(r) life!) you have to do more work than just take a snap in the field, stick it on here, sit back, let someone else do the work and label up your photograph . . . . read (and if necessary re-read) Help us to help you identify fungi

btw this is a Psathyrella - a spore print would have ruled out Amanita at stage one - and I for one cannot do Psathyrella ID's on what I can see here (there generally has to be nothing else about for me to turn to a Psathyrella in the first place, and given the sort of fungi I'm interested in there is never "nothing else about")

best wishes

Chris

[dickie'sbird]

Thanks Chris...as ever, all helpful information for us 'newbies' and I do get your 'general' points...and 'no', I won't be giving up on this...enjoy it too much, for all my mistakes! The more I learn the more it intrigues me

Regards
Jean