earthy webcap?

[diggleken]

Hi,
this from today - in spite of recent heavy frosts.
Is it Cortinarius hinnuleus?
It was single on peaty moorland soil quite high up, under a rotten dead old Hawthorn, but 25yds from a dump site which included manure, so prob too far away to affect substrate.I'm struggling with it - all in brown shades, it appears to have a white ring remaining and velar traces on cap edge, slightly striate, gills brownish with it seems a whiteish edge, stipe strongly marked above ring remnants and thickening slightly at base.
No spore print yet. Appears hygrophanous, drying at edge first.
Any thoughts/steer gratefully received!

Cheers
Ken

[fairplay]

It's a good general likeness Ken, but the cap is said to be 'sharply umbonate' whereas your cap appears to be just 'round'.
The gill colour seems a little odd as well - not rusty/reddish brown enough.

If it wasn't for that stem ring, I'd say this looks more like a Laccaria sp.
So you may be correct after all.

Neil.

[diggleken]

Thanks Neil, glad its not just me - you sum up my confusion well!
Cheers
Ken

[Brisfung]

Ooh, these little LBJs!
Definitely not Cortinarius hunnuleus: maybe loosely a member of subgroup Telamonia. Most likely to be one of the larger Galerinas, or Pholiotina or Tubaria going from general appearance, ring etc.
Did you look for pleurocystidia, cheilocystidia, ornamentation on spore or wall thickness/size of germ pore in spore? That would crack it!
Justin

[mollisia]

Hello,

for Telamonia the ring is too mebraneous. Only the totally different looking C. torvus could have a similar ring.
As the ring is striate, I think only Pholiotina rests. Tubaria is also ruled out be the form of gill attachment. But which species in Pholiotina (and if it is Pholiotina ...) can only be said when microscopical data are available.

best regards,
Andreas

[diggleken]

Thanks for that info Justin and Andreas - certainly Pholiotina fits much the best from macro features.
In fact, Pholiotina aporos seems quite likely in many ways when comparing pics on mycokey - P. velata also looks close, but ring isnt right.
I am resigned, as often happens, to merely cataloguing as Pholiotina spp.
But I still favour P. aporos...................
Cheers all
Ken