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31-12-2011, 12:06 PM
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I believe this could be a Russula and possibly R. puellaris. Found on 26/12 in litter beneath pines. Would anyone like to confirm (or trash) my tentative identification? |
31-12-2011, 01:38 PM
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Hi Camilo,
I certainly wouldn't trash your suggestion as I can see how you arrived at Russula, but stem and gill attachment says no.
I've only popped back home to check my emails and have to rush out again, so I don't have time to study your photo in detail, but I think there may be a bit of a colour cast in the second photo which is throwing me for the mo'
Hopefully this will be identified by the time I get back.
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31-12-2011, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Camilo 
I believe this could be a Russula and possibly R. puellaris. Found on 26/12 in litter beneath pines. Would anyone like to confirm (or trash) my tentative identification? | Im just wondering if this is the Charcoal burner, if not you will get your ID soon 
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31-12-2011, 07:45 PM
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Hey Camilo,
Neil's right to suspect this is not a Russula.
There is a clue in the stem: if you break it open you will find it's made up of longitudinal fibres (hence the striate appearance), whereas in Russula the stem will break a bit like a piece of chalk.
It looks a little like a partially dessicated Rhodocollybia butyracea to me, but I'll let the others have a bit of imput before I decide conclusively 
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31-12-2011, 08:37 PM
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As soon as I saw the stem, I thought Buttercap, but it was the photo of the cap that made me hesitate - definitely a bit of a colour cast in there.
So yes, I think we can safely say Rhodocollybia butyracea with a dried out cap.
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02-01-2012, 09:38 AM
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Well thanks a lot!
A question, the books I have seem to prefer Collybia to Rhodocollybia. Is there a reason for that? Is one more acceptable than the other? One reference suggests that C. butyracea is associated with hardwood woodland and that the similar C. filamentosa prefers acid woodland. The one I picture was found on sandy soil under pines - an acid environment. |
02-01-2012, 03:37 PM
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Many of the Collybia have recently changed to Rhodocollybia so most of the books will be out of date.
(Rhodo)collybia filamentosa is not British as far as I can tell.
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02-01-2012, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Camilo Well thanks a lot!
A question, the books I have seem to prefer Collybia to Rhodocollybia. Is there a reason for that? Is one more acceptable than the other? One reference suggests that C. butyracea is associated with hardwood woodland and that the similar C. filamentosa prefers acid woodland. The one I picture was found on sandy soil under pines - an acid environment. | I was out today in a pure Corsican Pine forest with plenty of R.butyracea still showing with a few Lactarius species and one single green Russula.
What is the name of the book you are using because as Mal says, R.filamentosa is not on the British checklist.
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02-01-2012, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Camilo . . . .
A question, the books I have seem to prefer Collybia to Rhodocollybia. Is there a reason for that? Is one more acceptable than the other? . . . . . | see: What is this mushroom for a bit of an explanation
one clue as to why this isn't a Russula ia that you can clearly see intermediate gills (one which only reach a half to a quarter the way to the stipe - almost all Russula species only have simple, "all-the-way" gills
sometimes the clues are as simple as that
cheers
Chris
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03-01-2012, 10:53 AM
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Thanks Chris for the entertaining background to the feminine wiles of C. & R. butyracea. My comment would be that the more one learns the more one realizes that there is still to be learnt.
Neil: the bookpage that mentions C.filamentosa as an acid woodland spp. is:
Laessoe, T. 2000. Mushrooms. Dorling Kindersley. London. p112 | | | |
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